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Subject: Re: Polugaevsky, L vs Nezhmetdinov, R 1958 " A Wild Position "

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 05:25:23 10/31/01

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On October 31, 2001 at 07:08:43, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 31, 2001 at 03:28:12, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 2001 at 19:49:30, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On October 30, 2001 at 18:24:41, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]r5k1/ppp2r1p/3p3b/3Pn3/1n2PPp1/1P2K1P1/PBB1N2q/R2Q3R B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How do your programmes evaluate this position?
>>>>Do they find forced mate?
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>CM8000 does not find the mate in under 10 minutes on my PIII-600. It sees:
>>>
>>>1...Rxf4 2.Rxh2 Rf3+ 3.Kd4 c5+ 4.dxc6ep b5 5.Bd3 Nexc6+ 6.Kc3 Bg7+ 7.Kd2 Rxd3+
>>>8.Ke1
>>>
>>>with an eval of -1.79. Is this the right line, and CM just hasn't seen far
>>>enough yet? Is there really a forced mate?
>>>
>>Yes it is!  Fritz with help finds a mate in 14, it was shorter in the
>>actual game.
>>
>>I did this quickly so a shorter mate may exist?
>>
>>
>>1...Rf4! 2.Rxh2..Rf3+ 3.Kd4..Bg7!!4.Rxh7
>
>I do not understand Rxh7
>why not Ng1?

Rxh7 is a computer move to delay mate. Ng1 and the mate come a couple
moves sooner.
>
>Black may win by Rxg3 but I do not see a forced mate after it
>
>New position
>[D]r5k1/ppp3bp/3p4/3Pn3/1n1KP1p1/1P3rP1/PBB4R/R2Q2N1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>
>4...Nxc2+!
>  +-  (7.56)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Nexc6+ 6.Kc4
>  +-  (4.75)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Nexc6+ 6.Kc4
>  +-  (4.75)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Nexc6+ 6.Kc4
>  +-  (4.75)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
>4...Ned3+!
>  +-  (4.69)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
>4...Ned3+! 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Ke4
>  +-  (3.25)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00  1kN
>4...Ned3+!
>  +-  (2.81)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00  1kN
>4...Ned3+! 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4
>  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 2/21   00:00:00  1kN
>4...Ned3+ 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4 a5+ 8.Kb5
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 3/19   00:00:01  9kN
>4...Ned3+ 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4 a5+ 8.Kb5 Nxd1
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 4/22   00:00:04  27kN
>4...Ned3+ 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4 a5+ 8.Kb5 Nxd1 9.Rxd1
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 5/24   00:00:11  82kN
>4...Ned3+ 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4 a5+ 8.Kb5 Nxd1 9.Rxd1
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 6/25   00:00:21  254kN
>4...Ned3+ 5.e5 Bxe5+ 6.Kc4 Nxb2+ 7.Kxb4 Bc3+ 8.Ka3 Nxd1 9.Rxd1 Rxg3 10.Rxh7
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 7/27   00:00:23  830kN
>4...c5+!
>  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 7/31   00:00:24  1208kN
>4...c5+! 5.dxc6 Ned3+ 6.Kc4 b5+ 7.Kxb5 Rb8+ 8.Ka4 Nxb2+ 9.Ka3 Nxd1 10.Rxd1
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 7/31   00:00:24  1369kN
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Ned3+ 6.Kc4 b5+ 7.Kxb5 Rb8+ 8.Ka4 Nxb2+ 9.Ka3 Nxd1 10.Rxd1
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:25  2108kN
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Ned3+ 6.Kc4 b5+ 7.Kxb5 Rb8+ 8.Ka4 Nxb2+ 9.Ka3 Nxd1 10.Rxd1
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:28  5276kN
>4...c5+ 5.dxc6 Ned3+ 6.Kc4 b5+ 7.Kxb5 Rb8+ 8.Ka4 Nxb2+ 9.Ka3 Nxd1 10.Rxd1
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 10/33   00:00:37  13847kN
>4...c5+--
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 11/35   00:01:12  45384kN
>4...c5+-- 5.dxc6 Ned3+ 6.e5 Bxe5+ 7.Kc4 b5+ 8.Kxb5 Rb8+ 9.Ka4 Nxb2+ 10.Ka3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/36   00:01:19  51404kN
>4...Rxg3!
>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 11/36   00:01:33  62806kN
>4...Rxg3! 5.Ne2 Rf3 6.Ng1 c5+ 7.dxc6 Ned3+ 8.Kc4 b5+ 9.Kxb5 Rb8+ 10.Ka4
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 11/36   00:01:38  66522kN
>4...Rxg3 5.Ne2 Rf3 6.Ng1 c5+ 7.dxc6 Ned3+ 8.Kc4 b5+ 9.Kxb5 Rb8+ 10.Ka4
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 12/35   00:02:55  126315kN
>4...Rxg3!
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 13/37   00:06:13  294192kN
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 31.10.2001)
>
>
>..Rxh7 5.Ng1..c5+ 6.dxc ep. ..Nbc6+
>>7.Kd5..Nb4+ 8.Kd4..Ned3+ 9.e5..Bxe5+ 10.Kc4..Rc8+ 11.Kb5..Rc5+ 12.Ka4..Nxb2+
>>13.Kxb4..Bc3#
>>>jm
>>But mate it is!
>>
>> Terry



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