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Subject: Re: Can anyone here beat the "best" prog in 40/120

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 18:01:24 11/08/01

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On November 08, 2001 at 20:23:45, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Jonas,
>
>>>By equal i mean: 1.3 Ghz Athlon
>>
>>No
>>
>>I believe that nemeth never played 120/40 against programs on 1.3 Ghz athlon or
>>similiar hardware.
>
>Afaik he has played 120/40 against 1 GHz PIII from a friend of him - anyway,
>what you do not understand, hardware is not that important in this issue, there
>are positions and playing ideas Eduard shows us from time to time where
>different engines play extremely unsound... They do not see the idea behind
>those moves, you could give them a 100 GHz CPU and they still play unsound. The
>task of the human opponent is to get them into such positions. And that is much
>easier when throwing them early out of book and then to prepare the patterns the
>engine does not understand. That is the advantage of the human side - you have
>ideas in your brain, you know about certain patterns... And Eduard is very good
>in such things. Also he has posted in CSS-Forum some month ago quite many 120/40
>games against Fritz, Shredder - against almost every professional engine,
>including both Tiger. (But he said with both it is not that easy to get them
>where he wants, different to Fritz). Wether that is on PIII/600 or Athlon 1800
>does not mean that much - if the combination is to deep speed does not help the
>engines - knowledge is needed and that's the point where it lacks...
>
>Greets, Thomas

I do not mean that in general "anti comp" shlould not be played at all, but i am
curious as to wether anyone here meeting the conditions i posted earlier is able
to beat the comp ( and i hope that Jose C will do just that)
I am not saying that "anti comp" is bad/wrong/unsound or whatever, i would just
like to see what a human could do without "anti comp" and also see what a comp
could do under such conditions, that all.
I have posted one of Nemeth's games as "game of the month" on my homepage and i
am quite aware that he knows what he is doing!! but so far i have only seen
blitz games from him on slow hardware, which brings me to another point: you say
that it does not matter if the comp is a 1000 Mhz or a 100 Ghz?? well i am
certain that a 100 Ghz comp would not get itself into those positions you talk
of!!

Regards
Jonas



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