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Subject: Re: Schroders' Junk E-mail

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 07:43:05 06/01/98

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On June 01, 1998 at 04:24:26, Mark Young wrote:

>On May 31, 1998 at 23:12:26, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>>>>>>While I agree with you that it is a personal attack, I think that the
>>>>>>complaint must come from the person attacked before moderation is
>>>>>>considered.
>>>>
>>>>NO!  I absolutely disagree.   In Ed's case, it was quickly handled by
>>>>Ed himself and quickly resolved.  This is great and no moderation
>>>>is required.
>>>>
>>>>But what if Ed never complained and the guy never stopped?  What
>>>>if two members get into a heated argument and launch an all out
>>>>war against each other but never make a formal complaint?
>>>>
>>>>Isn't the natural reaction of many to just react?  Just because
>>>>Ed handled the matter with great maturity does not mean others
>>>>will.
>>>>
>>>>No, the principle should be just as Enrique proposed, to avoid
>>>>personal attacks as our first priority.
>>>>
>>>>- Don
>>>
>>>There is a lot of IF's there. In this case the way it happend. Ed did
>>>the right thing. Im sure if the IF'S had happend. Ed or someone else
>>>would take diffrent steps. Then I would also agree with you.
>>
>>
>>Lot's of "if's" strengthen my case.  I did not chain them together.
>>It is clear you are not a programmer.  But it seems I am a detective!
>>
>>- Don
>
>I never said you did chain them together, but the point is the ifs never
>happend in this case. I do know if I was attacked I would want to be
>able to respond, because the post will still be seen by some.

But this is what leads to trouble, peoples compulsion to respond to
attacks.  I believe not responding can be as effective as any clever
response I might come up with.

But having the option to respond might be a good thing, so I think
I agree here.  However, responding with more personal attacks to
get revenge is the whole thing we should be trying to avoid.

>Unless CCC
>has found a way to remove a post before anyone has read it. In this case
>Ed was attacked not only personaly, but his companys ethics were also
>attacked. Ed has no way of knowing who or how many people may have read
>this post. If CCC just deletes the post, then Ed or someone else may not
>have known they were attacked. The attack and charges will then stand
>unchallenged in the minds of the people who read the post. Thats why I
>think Ed did the right thing in this case. Now for the person attacking,
>I agree with Bob. Kick them out, if thats is the judgement CCC comes to.

I really believe Ed handled this one exceptionally.  And I mean just
that, his would be the exception.  9 out of 10 will respond with
significanly more venom than Ed did and not diffuse the attack.  Ed's
reply was informational, non-personal and how could you attack it?

So I certainly agree with you, we have a right to respond, but are
first goal is to not allow mud slinging.

- Don







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