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Subject: Re: GM and Super GM

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 12:36:04 11/28/01

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On November 28, 2001 at 15:14:06, Dann Corbit wrote:

>Of course, you see the very same thing in computer verses computer games!
>
>Ever watched a big computer chess tournament, and all of a sudden a program
>discovers it is in drastic trouble because of some blind side in its eval?
>
>I have nothing but respect even for IM's.  Sune Larssen posted a game here a
>while back:
>
>[Event "Sigeman & Co"]
>[Site "Malmoe SWE"]
>[Date "2001.06.18"]
>[Round "7"]
>[White "Berg, E."]
>[Black "Hector, J."]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[WhiteElo "2474"]
>[BlackElo "2546"]
>[ECO "C34"]
>[Opening "KGA"]
>[Variation "Schallop defence"]
>[EventDate "2001.06.12"]
>[PlyCount "85"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e5 Ne4 5. d4 d5 6. Bxf4 c5 7. Bd3 Qb6 8.
>O-O cxd4 9. Nbd2 Bf5 10. Nb3 Bc5 11. a4 a6 12. a5 Qa7 13. Nxc5 Qxc5 14. b4
>Qxb4 15. Bc1 Nc6 16. Ba3 Qxa5 17. Bf8 Qc7 18. Bxe4 Bxe4 19. Bd6 Qd7 20. Ng5
>f6 21. Nxe4 dxe4 22. Qh5+ g6 23. Qh4 f5 24. g4 Qe6 25. Rfb1 Ra7 26. Rb6
>Nxe5 27. Bxe5 Qxe5 28. Ra5 Qg7 29. Re6+ Kd7 30. Rae5 Kc8 31. Re8+ Rxe8 32.
>Rxe8+ Kd7 33. Qd8+ Kc6 34. Re6+ Kc5 35. Qb6+ Kc4 36. Qb3+ Kc5 37. Qb6+ Kc4
>38. Qxa7 Qh6 39. Qxb7 Qe3+ 40. Kf1 Qf3+ 41. Kg1 Qxg4+ 42. Kf1 Qd1+ 43. Kg2
>1/2-1/2
>
>Tell me if you can find a computer that recognizes many of the brilliant moves
>of these IM's!
>
>More than comparing them against the computers (which is a *very differnt* sort
>of brilliancy) let's compare them against ourselves.  I think of Come, the
>French kid who posts here some times.  The guy has an absolutely brilliant eye
>for what to do.  Sometimes, I play against someone weak or a really feeble
>program and feel like I'm pretty strong at the game.  Then I play a truly
>powerful opponent and get humbled.
>
>The ability even of an IM is awe-inspiring, to me.
>The ability of a GM is frightening!
>The ability of a Super-GM is mind-blowing.
>
>To say, "Look!  The computer found a stupid mistake!" does not mean that the GM
>played incorrectly.  Sometimes, it really does not see the fault of that path.
>
>There is some analysis of the game above here:
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/game-of-the-week/
>
>Worth a perusal, in my opinion.

Who is Come and you forgetting someone here?

Marc van Hal

Or I rather could call myself Don Quichote
Though he at least had one companion.



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