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Subject: Re: New Endgame Test Suite

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 14:40:08 12/03/01

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On December 03, 2001 at 16:54:01, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On December 03, 2001 at 16:20:44, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2001 at 12:38:34, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 2001 at 06:35:30, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 2001 at 06:32:12, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 03, 2001 at 06:28:23, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 03, 2001 at 03:49:49, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Version one of my endgame test suite (50 positions) is finally ready for public
>>>>>>>consumption.  It can found at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://homepages.caverock.net.nz/~peter/eg_test/eg_test.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The web pages need a bit of work, but hopefully they will do for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks to everyone who contributed positions, analysis, ideas etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>PET005 and PET006 seem to be the same position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>Steffen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, but different color to move!
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>Oh, sorry! I didnt look at the color because I saw that in both positions b3 was
>>>>the best move :-)
>>>
>>>Ah yes, I thought that was kind of amusing.
>>>
>>>How does Hossa do on the test?
>>>
>>>At 60sec/position my program gets 23/50, for 190 points out of a possible 500.
>>>So not a greatly impressive result, although I have no idea how other programs
>>>do.
>>
>>I get 15/50 :-(
>>
>>I like this test suite a lot... a lot of work to be done.
>
>Glad you like it Steffen, I put a lot of effort into creating it!
>I had to stop myself from modifying LambChop to try to solve each new position I
>found, otherwise I would never have finished creating the test suite :-)

Thanks Peter for collecting these positions.
I do not know whether the test will reflect strength of a program in real
endgames (time will tell), but I am sure that the positions are wonderful to
work with. There are many themes that are very important.
As steffen said, lot of work to be done.

Endgame is something I barely touched in my program and will use your positions
eventually. The interesting thing is that there several that I consider myself
to use them! For instance Karpov Ng2 is a position that made a strong impression
on me for a long time. Shirov's Bxh3 and the couple that you have from
Rubinstein (a true giant on the endgame) are really good.

Regards,
Miguel
PS: I like the one that you create that starts with Bh3! (to triple the pawns on
the h file and draw)



>
>>
>>Thanx,
>>Steffen.



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