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Subject: Re: Commercial program strength vs. amateur program strength

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 14:54:08 12/21/01

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On December 21, 2001 at 12:22:23, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 21, 2001 at 01:01:08, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>>That's not my point. We were talking about best commercial programs vs. best
>>>amateur programs.
>>>
>>>I agree that there are strong amateurs, but the interesting thing is the gap
>>>between the best professionals and the best amateurs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>I should have made the distinction between best commercial chess programs and
>>best non-commercial chess programs. I agree that I wasn't entirely clear about
>>that.
>>
>>You are indeed correct that the only interesting discussion lies in the
>>differences between the _best_ commercial chess programs and the _best_
>>amateur/non-commercial programs. No one really cares that an amateur engine is
>>better than the worst commercial engine.
>>
>>Also, I would agree with your definition of commercial vs. non-commercial. I
>>believe a commercial program is one that the author recieves enough income from
>>the program to consider it a job (even a part time job). I find it similair to
>>the idea of "professional" chess players. In my mind, a "professional" chess
>>player is one who is good enough to support himself from the winnings of
>>tournaments he competes in. I don't think it be necessary that the professional
>>chess player be able to support himself solely on the income from his chess
>>playing, but it should constitute a good portion, just as a commercial program
>>should be one that provides a good portion of a person's income in order to be
>>considered commercial. I think it might also be a requirement that the author of
>>the program, without the financial aide his program provides, find himself in a
>>financially bad situation. However, this might not work, since this defines Bill
>>Gates as not being a professional programmer, or a professional anything, since
>>he could be without any job and still be financially secure. Commercial and
>>professional are more difficult to define that I first suspected.
>
>
>
>Yes the definition is fuzzy at best, and it has already lead to harsh
>discussions at the beginning of the ICCA events, because in these events
>"professional" programmers had to pay a ridiculously high entry fee ($1000 or
>something like that).

It was $1000 exactly. But don't worry. If the dollar comes below the euro it
will be changed to 1000 euro.

Tony

>
>
>
>    Christophe



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