Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 17:30:02 12/22/01
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On December 21, 2001 at 17:02:52, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>On December 21, 2001 at 12:14:47, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 2001 at 00:43:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On December 20, 2001 at 21:19:44, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 20, 2001 at 20:12:06, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 20, 2001 at 18:30:51, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 20, 2001 at 17:56:17, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I can't think of a reason why commercial programmers would have an edge over
>>>>>>>amateurs when coming up with good ideas/techniques.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When an amateur programmer comes up with lots of good ideas/techniques, then
>>>>>>he'll have success and go commercial eventually. I think that's how Shredder and
>>>>>>Junior proceeded.
>>>>>
>>>>>Right, but Shredder and Junior's authors had their good ideas when they were
>>>>>amateurs and implemented them in their amateur programs, which confirms my point
>>>>>that amateur programmers can have/implement good ideas just as well as the
>>>>>commercial programmers.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course. The difference is the amount of time/energy one is ready to spend.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>Well, based on your last two reples to my posts, you agree with me completely.
>>>So why all the noise to Scott about how commercial programs use vastly
>>>different/superior techniques than amateur programs?
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>Because they do, and it is the result of the amount of time and energy spent on
>>it.
>>
>>I would not even say that the techniques are vastly superior, but there are a
>>number of differences that end up in a significant strength difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>Then we're disagreeing again. I still believe that whatever techniques you're
>using can also be found in amateur programs. There are just too many amateur
>programs out there for this not to be true.
>
>-Tom
I don't understand why you want to disagree with me.
I did not say amateur programmers won't find these techniques.
It is just unlikely that one of them will find all of them (of enough of them)
without a significant investment in time and energy, which is still the main
advantage of commercial chess programmers.
Christophe
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