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Subject: Re: Probability [very very OT]

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 18:55:20 12/25/01

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On December 25, 2001 at 13:28:59, Sune Fischer wrote:

>But take a look at chimps, gorillas and orangutangs, there is an obvious
>connection there, you hardly need to know about genetics to see that.
>The idea of a common ancestor is just logical, combine that with the survival of
>the fittest principle and you have a pretty convincing theory:)
>



>What is "micro" and "macro" evolution?

*Basically* micro evolution is smaller changes over time. For example, you start
with one species of dog, and over a long time period you get several hundred
species of dogs (but still dogs). Macro evolution is where you take dirt and get
extremely complex living breathing humans. From a creationist (see below for
more on creationism) viewpoint, micro evolution is scientific, and macro
evolution is not.

>The only alternative "theory" I know of is the story of Adam and Eva, and the
>list of observations that disproves that story is endless.
>If you feel you have some proof against Darwin I'd be happy to see it
>(but then lets start a new thread somewhere else :).

Her name is Eve, but that's probably just a typo :)

This alternative theory is called creationism or creation science, and just as
you would like to see some evidence against the theory of evolution, I'd like to
see the evidence that disproves the story of creation, because I have never seen
any.

If you're really interested in learning the other side, and the evidence that
supports creation science, I'd be happy to send you about 12 hours worth of
audio that would give you a pretty good idea of where creation science is coming
from, and plenty of evidence against macro evolution. Creation science is (as
far as I can tell) just as valid a theory as evolution is. The only real
difference as far as analyzing the two theories are that with evolution, there
are holes, and with creation science, you can always fall back on statements
like, "That's the way God wanted it to be...", "God made it that way...", etc.

Personally I lean towards creation science because I am a Christian, and I like
the evidence supporting creation science (I think it fits together as a whole
better than the theory of evolution), but I find the whole debate very
interesting. The bottom line for me is that the belief in creation science over
evolution is not vital in determining my status as a Christian. There are two
basic things you need to be a Christian, and as long as you have those, you can
be wrong about everything else, and you'll still get into Heaven.

I don't know of any group that disputes micro evolution (although there might
be), and I believe the great debate is over macro evolution vs. creation. As far
as "logic" that you pointed out, micro evolution makes perfect since, while
macro evolution sounds just as much like a fairy tale as creation, so it's
really just a matter of which fairy tale you like better :)

Russell



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