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Subject: Re: Alpha chip

Author: Roberto Waldteufel

Date: 18:18:56 06/13/98

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On June 12, 1998 at 19:34:04, Tim Mann wrote:

>>>>I think they were bought by Compaq, but will still produce the Alpha
>>>>(and later generations) for some time.  Intel has some access to
>>>
>>>Huh. At the Intel employee orientation some guy told me about reworking
>>>the current Alpha fabs to Pentium II fabs. Maybe this was wishful
>>>thinking.
>>
>>I'm not sure of the exact Intel/Alpha relation.
>
>Here's the story.
>
>- We sold our fab line (in other words, our chip factory) to Intel.  Fab
>lines are very expensive to operate, and it is much more economical for
>a company that makes many different semiconductor products to operate
>one than for a company that makes just a few.  This makes us a "fabless
>semiconductor company", the same model as Sun (with Sparc), SGI/MIPS,
>and several other companies use.
>
>- Intel has a contract to manufacture Alphas for us for several years.
>The contract is nonexclusive; we are free to hire other chip
>manufacturing companies to make Alphas for us too.  We definitely have
>such deals under investigation; I don't know if anything has been
>consummated or announced.
>
>- We **have not** sold the Alpha design or technology to Intel.  The
>Alpha design teams continue to work for us, and they are designing new
>generations of Alpha chips.  The rights to the technology remain with
>us.  (We do have a patent cross-licensing agreement with Intel, but the
>agreement specifically says that Intel can't use our patents to design
>their own Alphas.  Also, some of our Alpha intellectual property is in
>the form of trade secrets, not patents, and Intel has no access to
>those.)
>
>It is wrongheaded to talk about whether Intel will "scrap" Alpha, no
>matter whether your opinion is positive or negative.  That is simply not
>Intel's decision to make!  They could choose not to make Alphas for us
>anymore after their contract is up.  That would not trouble us a bit; we
>could easily find other manufacturers, and might do so anyway if we can
>get a better deal than Intel gives us.
>
>- Finally, as of yesterday, "we" are Compaq: Compaq has bought Digital.
>Compaq is not going to "scrap" Alpha either; Alpha was one of the major
>attractions that led them to buy us.  By the way, Digital actually has
>more employees than Compaq, so I expect the combined company to retain a
>strong Digital flavor.
>
>	--Tim Mann

Hi Tim

I have been following the posts about the Alpha Chip, of which I was
unaware before I joined CCC. Forgive my ignorance, but could you explain
do Digital (or should I say Compaq) manufacture just the chip, or do you
supply complete computers built around the chip. I presently use a
Pentium 333MHz based system, but from what I read about the Alpha, it is
far better in almost every respect. Since chess programming, and to some
extent also other strategy games programming is my main reason for
owning a computer in the first place, I am rather interested to find out
more. The idea of a 600 MHz processor with 64-bit addressing for
bitboards and opcodes for FindBit and PopCount is something I have only
ever dreamed of! What I want to know realy is - where can I get one and
what would it cost?

Best wishes,

Roberto



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