Author: Alexander Kure
Date: 06:17:27 01/03/02
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On January 03, 2002 at 08:28:56, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 03, 2002 at 07:55:41, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On January 03, 2002 at 07:47:26, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 03, 2002 at 04:55:47, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On January 02, 2002 at 20:41:36, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 02, 2002 at 20:29:11, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Last, I have no time. Loek van Wely is on the menu and Gandalf 5 is going to >>>>>>play 4 correspondence games against 4 x IM's. I need all my time for those 2 new >>>>>>events. >>>>> >>>>>Fear or no fear, the net result is that Rebel and Tiger are about >>>>>the only strong professionals that are missing from the field from >>>>>what is becoming a more and more important tournament. It seems >>>>>that your competitors do not have the same reservations as you >>>>>do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>As Dann said, no time is a bad excuse. >>>> >>>>You have no right to label it this way. I have listed my objections against this >>>>type of tournaments quite well. From CCT1 I remember a certain programmer to >>>>call another programmer a cheater. Being once a victim of such slander which has >>>>bugged me for years I refuse to put myself into a vulnerable position. >>>> >>>>Ed >>> >>>If you mean the dispute between Amir and Bob, my memory of it is a bit different >>>(not cheating) but could be faulty. If it's something else, you'll have to >>>remind me. I was there handling TSCP for Tom BTW. In any case, they were at ends >>>due to a dispute that had nothing to do with CCT1, and due to some automated >>>function in the Crafty account, Amir's account was on the Censor list. When >>>their round was due to start, Bob hadn't arrived yet, and Amir was on a warpath >>>claiming this was a deliberate maneuver on Bob's end and claimed he was leaving. >>>A few minutes later, a couple of minutes before the round was due to start, Bob >>>arrived and when told about it, corrected the mistake, but Amir wanted some kind >>>of public apology or something. Eventually they both played as they were th >>>tournament leaders and Junior went down. In any case, as far as CCT1 is >>>concerned that's the only issue I can recall, other than Diepeveen's terrible >>>connection problems, though none held it against him. Please note that both are >>>in the event. :-) >>> >> >> >>No I wasn't aiming at the Amir-Bob case. >> >>Ed > >What then? I don't remember. In any case, I think that it shouldn't bar you from >participating. I think the idea of providing the game logs after the games to be >a good one. it's not perfect by any means, but it will go a long way in quelling >immediate accusations. Doctoring such logs at full speed would be very tough. >Have the logs include expected moves as well as all analyzed plies (not just the >mainline). This sort of event really needs to be supported IMO as the WMCCs are >just impossible for many programmers. This is the closest one can get to a true >WMCC IMHO, however imperfect or vulnerable it may be, and the turnout already >promises an absolutely fascinating event. Why not help close the circle? > > Albert I have been there too and i know what Ed is referring to. So i can understand Ed's position quite well. I will not go into further details. Greetings Alex
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