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Subject: Re: more examples for search-based stupidity

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 13:39:15 06/15/98

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On June 15, 1998 at 14:42:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 15, 1998 at 14:26:59, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On June 15, 1998 at 13:17:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>When they use this as an analogy, at best it s a smoke screen, and at worst it
>>>shows how little they do understand about the theory s they use as an analogy.
>>>It just makes them look silly.
>>
>>I don't think it is necessary to get into relativity to make sense out of it,
>>it's just a matter of converting something tangible into something intangible in
>>order to convert it back, with interest, later.
>>
>>bruce
>
>Except I don't personally believe there is any 'conversion' going on.  IE
>if you sac a pawn, to get it back "with interest" later... either you didn't
>really sacrifice it in the first place (it was a long-term tactical shot) or
>else your opponent blundered.  But there is no way to sac a pawn, and then get
>it back later, if this is not tactically forced...
>
>It's just dropping a pawn...
>
>Conservation of mass and energy is not the same thing at all, particularly
>knowing that we can not currently convert from energy back to matter again,
>otherwise we'd have the startrek transporter system up and running.

The model they prefer to use of chess involves this titanic struggle
of minds, with little advantages going back and forth.  Someone comes
up with a "brilliant" move that can turn a loss into a win unexpectedly.
Or someone will make a weak move that "almost loses" but through sheer
determination is able to "hold on."

If the game theoretic value of each move were plotted, you would see
no brilliancies, no struggles or sacrafices or examples of clever
play.  All you would see is a record of how many times each player
pissed away a win or draw.   But that is all chess is, wait for an
error and do not make one yourself.   HEY, now that you mention it,
I think that is the way Chess Genius plays chess!  The author
obviously understands the true nature of chess.

- Don




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