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Subject: Re: assembly--not really that fast

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 01:32:32 01/14/02

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On January 14, 2002 at 03:26:56, Jonathan Parle wrote:

>On January 14, 2002 at 01:04:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2002 at 23:11:50, Jonathan Parle wrote:
>>
>>>Ed,
>>>
>>>Your response helps explain (at least to me) why I have specifically always
>>>found your programs to be the toughest of all to play against (along with
>>>Richard Lang's) at fast time controls. I notice this advantage tends to
>>>dissipate with increased time controls - to the point where a lot of the
>>>programs seem to me to be fairly similar in strength - just with differing
>>>playing styles.
>>
>>No
>>
>>There are better programs in comp-comp games also in blitz.
>>
>>Genius was the best some years ago but it is not the best today even not in
>>blitz.
>>
>>Century4 is better than Genius but is not known to be number 1 in blitz.
>>
>>I cannot explain why do you find Century and Genius better than other programs
>>if you have the other top programs of today.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I was referring to my own games against the programs rather than comp vs comp.
>So I would attribute this to my playing style. I concur with what you say
>regarding comp vs comp. However, just because player A, B and C share a similar
>rating, doesn't prevent player C from walloping player A in a 10 game match and
>player C getting walloped by player B in a ten game match. Some players of
>similar rating simply find they have difficutly against particular opponents of
>a similar rating, but not others. I think this is what is happening here with my
>human vs comp experiences. I just find Ed Shroeder's and Richard Lang's programs
>much tougher blitz opponents than, say Junior or Fritz, regardless of what the
>published ratings say.


I often get those remarks, for instance: Rebel so now and then (but more than
other programs) can play moves that at first sight look as a major blunder. It's
no blunder, it's a trap, if you bite you are toasted. Naturally in comp-comp
this is worthless, it only counts in human-comp.

Genius: a spider in his web, waiting for a tiny mistake and then strike. I can
tell, Rebel lost many major games against the spider in the old 6502 days.

Ed



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