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Subject: Re: Nice tactical shot.

Author: Steve Timson

Date: 22:02:46 01/25/02

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>
>the +3 pawns looks a tactical score to me. but the +1 is a too optimistic
>score for sure.
>

I checked out the pv for the +3 score.  It is actually somewhat interesting.  In
fact material is even.  The +3 is coming from a king safety score.  Here is the
position at the end of the PV where it is white to move:

[D] 2r1k3/p2qr2p/1p4pB/8/4Q3/6P1/PPP2P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 11

What has happened here is that stand pat in qsearch has missed what is
happening.  In this position, white chooses to stand pat, finishing the qsearch.
 My kingsafety penalizes the black king heavily here, because it is undefended
by pawns, and attacked by all of white's pieces.  Problem is, stand pat isn't
valid here.   White trades queen and rook into an ending that gets evaluated as
roughly equal.

My question then becomes, how do other programs avoid this false solution?  Do
they have more sophisticated stand pat logic?  Do they not penalize the king as
much because it is defended by friendly pieces?

Stuff to think about.

 - Steve



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