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Subject: Re: Nice tactical shot.

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 16:29:57 01/26/02

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On January 26, 2002 at 19:24:11, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On January 25, 2002 at 15:51:34, Ernst Walet wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2002 at 02:37:48, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>
>>>On January 24, 2002 at 16:27:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 24, 2002 at 15:58:27, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 24, 2002 at 15:14:00, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 23, 2002 at 22:04:13, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]r2qkb1r/pb3p1p/1pp1p1pB/8/3PB1Q1/6P1/PPP2P1P/R3R1K1 w kq - 0 15
>>>>>>>How does you favourite program do? Does it find 15. Bxc6+ in reasonable time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fritz 7.0.0.6 on Athlon 1.2 takes over 6 minutes(!):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.Bg5 Be7 2.Bxe7 Qxe7 3.Qf3 0-0 4.Rad1 Qb4 5.b3 Qa3 6.Ra1 Qb2 7.c3 Rac8
>>>>>>  ±  (0.79)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:02  1270kN
>>>>>>  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 15/36   00:03:35  136212kN
>>>>>>1.Bxc6+ Bxc6 2.Rxe6+ fxe6 3.Qxe6+ Be7 4.Qxc6+ Kf7 5.Qc4+ Ke8 6.Re1 Rc8 7.Rxe7+
>>>>>>Kxe7 8.Bg5+
>>>>>>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 15/38   00:06:06  229372kN
>>>>>>  +-  (1.85)   Depth: 16/38   00:07:11  271799kN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Roy, what hashtable size did you use?  With 512MB Fritz needs 400214kN,
>>>>>
>>>>>1.Bxc6+!
>>>>>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 15/41   00:10:07  400217kN
>>>>>
>>>>>and with 832MB hash Fritz needs 353330kN.
>>>>>
>>>>>1.Bxc6+!
>>>>>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 15/39   00:08:56  353330kN
>>>>>
>>>>>Ernst.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ernst, I use 384 MB hash.  I tested Fritz 7.0.0.6.  A bit of the time it was
>>>>running in the background (behind the IE6 browser), so the times probably should
>>>>have been a bit shorter.  I'm running WinXP on an Athlon 1.2 GHz.  What are the
>>>>specs of your setup?
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a Celeron 1200 with 1280MB ram, I usually use 832MB for hash and was
>>>suprised that I needed more nodes than you, so I suspected that you used a very
>>>large hashtable.  When I get home, I will try it with 384MB hash and report
>>>again then.  I also run my system on WinXP.
>>>
>>>Ernst.
>>
>>Well, I ran the test with 384MB hash but need more nodes than you do, although
>>it was less than with 512 and 832 MB hash.  Don't now why though.
>>
>>Ernst.
>
>
>OK, I tried again.  This time it took Fritz 7.0.0.6 (XP, 1.2 GHz) almost 13
>minutes.
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>1.Bg5 Be7 2.Bxe7 Qxe7 3.Qf3 0-0 4.Rad1 Qb4 5.b3 Qa3 6.Ra1 Qb2 7.c3 Rac8
>  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 15/34   00:04:03  138340kN
>1.Bf4!
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 15/39   00:09:33  317087kN
>1.Bxc6+!
>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 15/40   00:12:49  425842kN
>1.Bxc6+!
>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 15/40   00:12:52  427661kN
>1.Bxc6+!
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 15/40   00:13:16  441386kN
>1.Bxc6+!
>  +-  (1.79)   Depth: 15/41   00:13:43  455996kN
>1.Bxc6+ Bxc6 2.Rxe6+ fxe6 3.Qxe6+ Be7 4.Qxc6+ Kf7 5.Qc4+ Ke8 6.Re1 Rc8 7.Rxe7+
>Kxe7 8.Bg5+
>  +-  (1.85)   Depth: 16/40   00:14:10  471919kN


I was focusing on time.  Looking at nodes versus cache size, we see:

Cache Nodes
----- -----
384M  425842k
512M  400214k
832M  353330k

I guess this makes sense.



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