Author: Albert Silver
Date: 18:17:24 02/18/02
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On February 18, 2002 at 20:46:34, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On February 18, 2002 at 14:42:17, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:25:05, Roy Eassa wrote:
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>>>Chess Tiger 14 is 100 points WEAKER than TheKing ??
>>
>>Keep in mind a few things:
>>
>>- The engines are playing with ponder OFF, which although ideal for a single
>>machine, can seriously affect the overall result.
>
>
>I don't think that any engine is handicapped by ponder=off.
>
>At least I can say that mine is not, so this is not a valid excuse for Tiger.
Not handicapped, but different, and in this case different means we don't know.
Take the same engines with the same opening moves with the same hardware but
give them individual computers with ponder on and who can say what will happen?
It's hard to say.
>Tiger is not handicapped by this. It would be handicapped if for example some
>5-men TBs were installed and some 4-men TBs were missing.
>
>So it's not an excuse for Tiger either.
I misunderstood therefore and stand corrected.
>>- The tournament's biggest purpose (unplanned) IMHO has been to show the
>>strength of new settings for CM8000 showing it to be an engine of the highest
>>quality suffering from less than optimal default settings.
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>
>I don't really see less than optimal settings. It's not an excuse for Tiger
>either.
No, not Tiger, but Chessmaster 8000. It had very poor results with the default
settings and many complained that this newer version was in fact weaker than
previous ones. Yet a number of new settings for CM have been used with very
interesting results, and as is the case here, even much better! Over in CSS they
have been having a CSS-Masters tournament with numerous engines including Tiger,
Fritz 7, etc. participating. The two finalists are.... two different settings of
CM8000. :-)
>If you consider that the programs are handicapped because the time controls are
>faster than 40/120, that one Gigabyte of hash table is not available or that
>permanent brain is off, then what would you say about Chess Tiger for Palm??? :)
I think that Chess Tiger for Palm would lose to CM8000 on my Athlon 1 GHz.
Albert
P.S. :-P
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