Author: martin fierz
Date: 16:22:50 03/17/02
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On March 17, 2002 at 18:31:26, Mike S. wrote: >On March 17, 2002 at 17:51:11, Telmo Escobar wrote: > >>On March 17, 2002 at 17:06:48, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>I think the draw was agreed too early (I don't know which side offered it). I >>>watched the game live, and IIRC Junior avoided repetitions twice earlier. >>>The end position is probably evaluated better for White by most programs, mainly >>>because white is a pawn up I assume, but White's queen is nearly caged. Also, >>>Gulko had much less time left on the clock. >>>[D]6k1/6p1/5p1p/2q5/p2pB2P/Pb1P2P1/1Q2PP2/5K2 b - - 0 42 >>>Shouldn't have been drawn already IMO. >> >> I didn't watch the game live. Generally speaking, whenever you watch chess >>live, it's sometimes difficult to forget about what you have seen and your >>expectations. So, a draw can be difficult to accept as the natural outcome. > >This is the perfect comment. > >> In the end position, I think it's an obvious positional draw. As you say, >>White's queen is nearly caged- then what active plan has Black? (...) > >I'm not a strong player, but I would try (as Black): > >1. Remove White's bishop from e4 by bringing the kingside pawns at the white >squares (h5/Kf7/g6/f5), so that with a black king at e5, the bishop wouldn't >defend White's d-pawn after an occasional Qc3, QxQc3. IOW, White couldn't play >e3+ then with an undefended Pd3. white's d-pawn is defended by the pawn on e2 already, there is not much need to defend it with the bishop. moving your pawns to white squares is a bad idea in general with white-squared bishops on. moving the pawns in front of you king is another bad idea in general... >2. I'd see if I can create a situation where Black plays Qc3, and after QxQc3 >Black's king should be near enough to support the c-pawn. Maybe he can maneuvre >via e5. (I don't know if Black can improve his position if White wouldn't >exchange queens on c3... if I was Black, I'd think "Let's see...") black's king will NEVER be near enough to support his c-pawn. after your suggested Qc3 Qxc3 dxc3 white plays Ke1 and if you push the pawn to c2, he plays Kd2. the pawns on a3 and d3 cover all squares the black king could go to, to support his pawn in the sense that he supports it's queening. this position has absolutely no potential for black. white can move his bishop from e4 to f3 to g2 and back again and relax. on the other hand, white has nothing he can do either because he has to keep a3 protected. >Unfortunately, the opponent can move in between, too. :o) I think Tartakover >said this, or Tarrasch (or another one with T :o). This is the weak point of my >plans sometimes. > >Regards, >M.Scheidl
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