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Subject: Re: Gulko today with the wrong opponent

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 06:10:25 03/20/02

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On March 20, 2002 at 03:40:31, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 19, 2002 at 19:25:28, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On March 19, 2002 at 18:25:22, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On March 19, 2002 at 18:16:30, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]r2qk2r/ppp1bppp/2n1b3/8/3Pp3/2P3P1/P3PPBP/R1BQNRK1 b kq -
>>>>
>>>>HIarcs had played the correct 10...f5(!).Would had be Junior7 the opponent today
>>>>in the game,it had bee a desaster for the computerteam, because Junior 7 would
>>>>had played the antipositionell 10...Qd5?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Junior would play f5 out of book, as probably did Hiarcs.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>Ok, so I gave Deep Junior 7 148 seconds (how much time HIARCS 8 took), let's see
>>what is said:
>>
>>W,S - Deep Junior 7
>>r2qk2r/ppp1bppp/2n1b3/8/3Pp3/2P3P1/P3PPBP/R1BQNRK1 b kq - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Deep Junior 7:
>>
>>1...f5 2.Nc2
>>  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>1...Qd5 2.Qc2 f5 3.Bf4 Qb5 4.Bxc7
>>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  27kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Qc2 f5 3.Bf4 Qb5 4.Bxc7
>>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  27kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Qc2 f5 3.Bf4 Qb5 4.Bxc7
>>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  27kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Qc2 f5 3.Bf4 Qb5 4.Bxc7
>>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  27kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Rb1 Qh5 3.Bxe4 0-0-0 4.Bxc6 bxc6 5.Nd3 Bxa2
>>  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  1071kN
>>1...f5 2.f3 0-0 3.fxe4 fxe4 4.Rxf8+ Qxf8 5.Bxe4 Bc4 6.Nd3
>>  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  1227kN
>>1...f5 2.f3 0-0 3.fxe4 fxe4 4.Rxf8+ Qxf8 5.Bxe4 Re8 6.d5 Rd8 7.Qb3
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 15   00:00:04  7208kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Rb1 0-0-0 3.Qc2 f5 4.Qb2 Na5 5.Nd3 Qxa2 6.Qxa2 Bxa2
>>  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 15   00:00:06  9738kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Rb1 0-0-0 3.Qc2 Bf5 4.e3 Qe6 5.Qb2 Na5 6.Qb5
>>  =  (0.07)   Depth: 17   00:00:18  35911kN
>>1...Qd5 2.Rb1 0-0 3.Nc2 Qxa2 4.Rb2
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 18   00:01:27  163236kN
>>
>>(W,  19.03.2002)
>>
>>
>>This is on HW that's 30% faster than yours.
>>
>>Can I _please_ have that version of DJ7?  ;)
>>
>>
>>Slate
>
>I hope that nobody will get it.
>Humans should not know the book that is used by the machine.
>
>Uri

I don't want the book.  I just want the program.  If he's calling it "Deep
Junior 7" then he's not calling it by the correct name.  I have "Deep Junior 7"
and on faster hardware, "Deep Junior 7" does not play f5.

Amir and Shay are *horrible* about releasing patches to Junior.  Amir told me a
long time ago that they had found a bug in DJ7 in a tournament a while back, and
had fixed it.  Junior users still haven't seen that patch.  Or at least, this
user hasn't.



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