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Subject: Re: When not to delete a post

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 11:54:42 07/09/98

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On July 09, 1998 at 13:36:31, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On July 09, 1998 at 12:50:57, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>
>>This is one I would delete.  It was a clear personal attack.  If it
>>wasn't, what is?   Why was it not deleted?   If this one is not deleted
>>I do not know how we justify deleting any others, it is not fair to pick
>>and choose these arbitrarily.   The next guy can ask why you are deleting
>>one personal attack and not another.   I am strongly in favor of
>>simply being consistant.  Is there anyone who does not feel this was
>>a personal attack?  Did we not agree to delete personal attacks?
>>
>>As far as modifying it, I do not think this is a good approach.  I
>>don't mind deleting offensive posts but I don't feel right about
>>changing the meaning because "asshole" certainly has a different
>>meaning than using someones name.
>>
>>It's not our job to edit the content of posts.   With personal
>>friendships I do the same, I do not change the meaning of things
>>said about my friends when I pass it along to them, but if something
>>hurtful is said I may choose to remain silent and avoid a lot of trouble.
>
>I think you made the same mistake that Bob did.  He didn't call someone else a
>name, it was just a header on his own comments.
>
>The reason he did this is that indirectly I called him this name on r.g.c.c.  So
>he's trying to get at me by bringing this stuff here.
>
>Regarding Sean, I would like to try to convince him that:
>
>A) A post of his that he thinks was deleted was not deleted.  I'm going to go
>looking for it.
>
>B) CCC didn't give its mailing list to Ed.  Sean was angered by an email he got
>from Ed, and assumed for no reason that I can determine that Ed had gotten
>Sean's address from CCC.  Steven and Ed deny this, Ed claims that the mail went
>to Sean because Sean had signed up to get mail on Ed's Rebel site.  Sean doesn't
>buy this explanation, apparently.  I don't know how this can be proven to him.
>I didn't get any email from Ed.  Did anyone else get email from Ed or not get
>it?  Would some threshold level of "I didn't get the mail" and "I got it, but I
>signed up on Ed's site, or at least might have" convince him?
>
>Regarding additional content of your post, I don't like the idea of editing
>posts either.
>
>As a side-topic, do we want to have a delete-profanity-on-sight system?
>Personally I don't care either way, I can live with either kind of situation.
>Some people seem to feel pretty strongly though.
>
>bruce


Yes,  I see that I did take this out of context.

Although I would prefer not seeing the profanity, I would not
favor deleting it unless it is used to attack or hurt people.
If it was used to deliberately hurt the group or drive people
away I would view it as an attack on the group as a whole.
There is no getting around the fact that in some cases a judgement
will have to be made.  I just want this to be done as objectively
and consistantly as possible.

- Don



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