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Subject: Re: Kotronias - Fritz: man over machine

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:45:06 07/12/98

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On July 12, 1998 at 21:35:27, Mike CastaƱuela wrote:

>From Chess Planet:
>Fritz5 plays with GM Kotronias from Greece which win the match by 3-1.
>This support the view of point of R. Hyatt, which is that in a match
>in regular conditions time the man (GM level) is best.
>
>
>Fritz5 - Kotronias V. [B65] (1)
>  1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 0-0
>9.f4
>  Nxd4 10.Qxd4 Qa5 11.Bc4 Bd7 12.e5 dxe5 13.fxe5 Bc6 14.Bd2 Nd7 15.Nd5 Qd8
>  16.Nxe7+ Qxe7 17.Rhe1 Rfc8 18.Bf1 a5 19.Qg4 Qc5 20.Bc3 Bd5 21.Kb1 b5 22.Bd3 b4
>  23.Bd4 Qe7 24.Be3 Nxe5 25.Bxh7+ Kxh7 26.Qh5+ Kg8 27.Qxe5 f6 28.Qd4 Rc4
>  29.Qb6 Be4 30.Re2 Rac8 31.Rdd2 a4 32.Bd4 Bf5 33.h3 e5 34.g4 Bg6 35.Bf2 Kh7
>  36.Qe3 Qc7 37.g5 Rxc2 38.Rxc2 Bxc2+ 39.Ka1 Bd1 40.Qe4+ Kh8 41.Re1 Qc1+
>  42.Qb1 Qxb1+ 43.Kxb1 Bc2+ 44.Kc1 Bg6+ 45.Kd1 Kg8 46.gxf6 gxf6 47.Re3 Bb1
>  48.Be1 Bxa2 49.Bxb4 Bb3+ 50.Ke1 Rc1+ 51.Kf2 Rc2+ 52.Re2 Rc4 53.Ba3 Kf7 54.Rd2
>  f5 55.Rd6 Rc2+ 56.Kf3 Be6 57.h4 f4 58.Ke4 Re2+ 59.Kf3 Re3+ 60.Kg2 Rh3 61.Ra6
>  Rxh4 62.Ra7+ Kg6 63.Ra5 e4 64.Ra6 Kf5 65.Ra5+ Kf6 66.Bd6 Rg4+ 67.Kf2 Bb3
>  68.Ra6 Kf5 69.Ra5+ Ke6 70.Bc7 Kd7 71.Ra7 Kc6 72.Be5 e3+ 73.Kf3 Bd1+ 74.Ke4 e2
>  75.Bc3 f3+ 76.Ke3 Rg1 77.Rf7 e1Q+ 78.Bxe1 Rxe1+ 79.Kd2 Rf1 0-1
>
>  Kotronias V. - FRITZ 5 [C06] (4)
>  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.c3 c5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.Ne2 cxd4 8.cxd4 f6
>9.exf6
>  Nxf6 10.Nf3 Qb6 11.0-0 Bd6 12.Nc3 0-0 13.Re1 Bd7 14.Be3 Kh8 15.a3 Qd8 16.Bg5
>  Ne7 17.Rc1 Qb6 18.Rc2 Rac8 19.Bh4 Nc6 20.Bb5 Ng4 21.Bg3 Bxg3 22.hxg3 Rc7
>  23.Bxc6 Rxc6 24.Na4 Qc7 25.Rxc6 Qxc6 26.Nc5 Rf6 27.Ne5 Nxe5 28.Rxe5 b6 29.Nd3
>  Qc4 30.Nf4 a6 31.Qd2 Qc6 32.g4 Qd6 33.g5 Rf8 34.Qe3 Rf5 35.Rxf5 exf5 36.f3 Kg8
>  37.Kf2 Kf7 38.Nd3 Kf8 39.Qf4 Qxf4 40.Nxf4 b5 41.Nxd5 a5 42.Ke3 Kf7 43.Nf4 Bc8
>  44.d5 Ke7 45.Kd4 Kd6 46.Nh5 g6 47.Nf6 Bb7 48.b4 a4 49.g4 fxg4 50.fxg4 Bc8
>  51.Nxh7 Bxg4 52.Nf6 Bf3 53.Ne4+ Kc7 54.Ke5 Bg2 55.Nc5 Bh3 56.Ne6+ Kd7 57.Nf8+
>  Ke8 58.Nxg6 Bg4 59.Nf4 Bd1 60.Kd6 1-0
>
>  FRITZ 5 - Kotronias V. [E98]  (3)
>  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Ne1
>  Ne8 10.Be3 f5 11.f3 f4 12.Bf2 h5 13.c5 g5 14.a4 Ng6 15.a5 Bh6 16.Nb5 a6 17.Na3
>  dxc5 18.Qc2 Kh7 19.Bxc5 Rf7 20.Nd3 g4 21.Nc4 Qg5 22.Qc3 Bg7 23.Bd1 Bd7 24.Ba4
>  gxf3 25.Rxf3 Bg4 26.Rf2 Rd8 27.Qb4 Bc8 28.Bc2 Bf6 29.Qc3 Rg7 30.Raf1 h4 31.Kh1
>  Be7 32.Bxe7 Rxe7 33.Ndxe5 Nxe5 34.Nxe5 Qxe5 35.Rxf4 Qxc3 36.bxc3 Re5 37.Rxh4+
>  Kg7 38.Rhf4 Rd6 39.g4 Rf6 40.Kg2 Rxf4 41.Rxf4 Nd6 42.Bd3 b5 43.axb6 cxb6
>44.Kf3
>  Re8 45.Ke3 Nf7 46.h4 Ne5 47.g5 Rf8 48.Rxf8 Kxf8 49.Bc2 a5 50.h5 Ba6 51.Kf4 Bd3
>  52.Kxe5 Bxc2 53.d6 Ba4 54.Kf6 Bc6 55.g6 a4 56.e5 a3 57.e6 a2 58.d7 a1Q 59.e7+
>  Kg8 60.d8Q+ 1-0


I am not sure of the GM's rating, but winning one of 4 is not a bad result
for a micro-based program.  That loosely equates to a rating of opponent-200,
which is still not bad.  Not a GM, but not bad...

As far as "supporting my point of view" you will get lots of debate.  However,
I believe that we don't yet have a GM-class program.  Maybe getting closer and
closer, but no GM players yet (again, talking about microprocessor based
programs, *not* Deep Blue, so let's not fire up that argument again.. :)  )



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