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Subject: Re: Kotronias - Fritz: man over machine

Author: Shaun Graham

Date: 12:29:25 07/13/98

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>>>
>>>(Caution, may be considered  off-topic  !)
>>>
>>>Yes, GM doesn't necessarily mean a thing today,  the title has become
>>>somewhat inflated.
>>>There are roughly 500 GM's now. At least 400 too much IMHO !
>>>Or does anyone admire or only care about a player ranked 450 in the world
>>>in tennis for example ? And chess is a very marginal competition (sport ?)  !
>>>
>>>Well,  Fritz (or Rebel or ...) could easily pick those 3 GM norms if FIDE
>>>would let them, (play hundreds of tournaments a year if necessary)  !
>>>
>>
>>Thank you man of excellent reasoning ability!  Yes fritz would get that norm,
>>but i seriously doubt it would take hundreds of tourneys, my rough guess would
>>be 50 max
>
>
>I have to disagree.  If it doesn't get it within the first 5 tournaments, it
>isn't, because by then, it won't have a chance against GM's because they would
>have studied it, found its weaknesses, and that version would be history.  True
>of any program I can think of in fact.
>

Hyatt in swiss system tournaments you don't know who you are going to play,and
most often you don't know who's going to be at the event.  So, how in the world
would you prepare for such an opponent?  Another reason why i said testing has
to be done in a secret way with a player recieving moves.  Because GM's are not
going to pay much attention to someone who got an GM norm in a tourney in
whoknowsland.  Further GM's don't have databases for the most part filled with
tournaments so recently played.  So it's a pretty good chance that in a swiss
event they would have never even seen the games that were played in recent
tournaments by the fritz player.





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