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Subject: Re: Fritz is a GM!!!

Author: Shaun Graham

Date: 23:47:18 07/13/98

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>>It doesn't matter if people find out, and start beating fritz!  The point would
>>have been made, that when playing against the normal standard of grandmaster
>>chess Fritz is comparable with those players.  That is the ultimate point and
>>purpose.  We have computer chess so that we can see a high level of chess, and
>>also so that we can learn how to play typical chess(good chess), not anti
>>computer chess(bad chess).  Now of course i'm not advocating that anyone should
>>purpotrate a hoax.  What i'm suggesting is the likelyhood that Fritz is GM
>>strength when it comes to what's important "typical chess".  When i described
>>the method of secrecy to test it, i was not advocating anyone do it, i was just
>>stating what would have to be done.  There is often a difference between what
>>you have to do to qaulify for what you call ethics, and what you have to do to
>>get an accurate scientific result.
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>All you are showing is that I have a lot better idea what a GM chess player is
>about than you do.  Fritz is *not* one.  It has positional weaknesses that even
>2200 players can beat.  Talk to Tim on ICC.  I've watched him bust it many
>times.

Hmm Wow it's amazing! Anand, Kasparov, Yermolinsky, Henley, all of who think
fritz is very strong.  And you Bob Hyatt are claiming fritz isn't even hardly a
master.  I don't mean to insult you Hyatt but quite frequently you flood threads
for the sole purpose of arguing.  Beyond that you purposely make attempts to
inflame when you realize you can't win with such statements as "All you are
showing is that I have a lot better idea what a GM chess player is about than
you do."  You need to learn that this isn't personal, and stop trying to make it
so.  Further note that anyone who cares to look Mr. Hyatt has responded to an
overwhelmingly large number of these post,i'm amazed that he has a job and time
to write so much".  You have an unquenchable thirst to have the last word on any
post given in the groups, if it weren't for crafty you would have long lost any
respectability, if you haven't already.  I think you can do good things for
computer chess, but stick to the data, and technique, if you aren't sure about
something look it up there's no shame in that.  No offense but please stop with
your endless petty bickering it's really childish.
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>*no* GM gets beat by a 2200 player, ever.  Unless it is a simul, or the rare
>blitz game.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>I know Michael, and you are correct. He is stronger then some GM's.



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