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Subject: Re: Hey Bob, do you still agree with this? The 64-bit question

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 03:57:56 04/08/02

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On April 07, 2002 at 12:09:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 07, 2002 at 01:00:55, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>Last night I was cruising the CCC archives reading over discussions on various
>>data representation approaches in chess programs, and I came across this
>>statement from 1999 in this post:
>>http://www.it.ro/ccc_search/ccc.php?art_id=39708
>>
>>"Just wait 5 years and see if you can find a 32 bit machine left."
>>
>>Well we are 2 years away from the 5 year deadline. Do you still agree with this?
>
>Yes.  The end is "in sight".
>
>
>
>
>>I'm not trying to throw old quotes back at you or anything. I'm really more
>>curious about how much longer it will be until 64-bit machines are the norm.
>>
>>I'm also curious if when the time comes that 64-bit machines are the norm, if
>>they will be on par with the Hz speeds of the 32-bit machines. For example,
>>right now you can get a 2.1 GHZ Athlon or 2.4 GHz P4 without having to take out
>>a loan. If you want a 64-bit Itanium, you're looking at $2,500 - $7,000 for a
>>chip that runs at 733-800 MHz (www.pricewatch.com). So once 64-bit machines are
>>practical from a price standpoint, will they still be at a third of the speed we
>>can get from a 32-bit machine?
>
>64 bit machines can run at identical clock speeds.  The issue is price.  As
>demand increases, price will go down driving performance up.
>
>
>
>>
>>If my data from pricewatch isn't entirely accurate please correct me. E.g. if
>>there are other 64-bit chips that are cheaper and faster than Itanium. Heck, how
>>much would a good 64-bit system cost today?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Russell
>
>
>There are plenty of chips cheaper than Itanium and far faster...  but Intel
>is going to set the standard.  The other vendors (HP, DEC/COMPAQ/whatever they
>are today, MIPS, IBM, have been doing 64 bit chips for years.  Intel is _way_
>behind...

I am not so sure about this. Did you already try mckinley?
6 integer units or something?

that'll kick butt of course.





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