Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:34:32 07/15/98
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On July 15, 1998 at 07:40:04, Shaun Graham wrote: > >> >>mistake number one. Simply do as I suggested, log on to ICC, and politely ask >>a GM. Or go to chess.net, I'll put you in contact with GM Larry Christiansen. >>Ask him about whether he knows who is going to be at what tournament, whether >>he prepares between rounds after figuring out who he plays in the next round. >>As I said, GM's take it a lot more seriously than you or I do. But I've been >>around a couple quite a bit, and they prepare carefully. When I was getting >>ready for the Yermolinsky game, I asked Roman what to play. I was quite >>surprised when he said "one minute..." aha, he likes to play d4 as white, >>playing that 70% of the time... and so forth." I asked him "how did you get >>that so quickly?" He responded "looked it up on my computer.. I keep my >>database up to date on *all* recently played tournaments so I can prepare when >>I find out who I play each round." >> > >Mistake # i wont count the number. It was clearly stated that GM's do analyse >between rounds, but the time is limited, further. Since the test situation >would not be using the same human to play for fritz in every tournament, fritz >would always be unknown entity in the tournament, thus the data to be analysed >would be highly limited, as there would be no games from past tournaments >available. Further as seemingly strange as it sounds in this day of >databases(which is a fairly recent occurence), there are still many IM players >and a few GM players that don't have laptops+chessbase+internett, to do what >Roman does. Chess is not the most lucrative profession for many to be able to >do this. >> mistake? Most FIDE events are one round per day, many one round every other day or two rounds on two successive days followed by a non-playing day. Most rounds start early evening. And are over by 6 hours or so. That leaves *18* hours before the next round. Again, you have no clue about FIDE tournaments and how they work, I assume. *EVERY* GM I know carries a database around. And most IM's also do. The machines are no longer ultra-expensive... >> >> >>> Further, since you can tell quite little by the examination of one or >>>even a couple of games, the usage of this info wouldn't play a huge role. >> >>Mistake 2. I catch my fair share of cheaters on ICC. Two games is enough. I >>have a program that analyzes the games, looking for tactical mistakes, and it >>is *quite good* at finding computer games. I can then play thru the game myself >>and find other "signatures". *you* might not be able to tell much from two >>games. *I* can tell a lot. And a GM can probably tell you after playing you >>one game that you are using a computer. They catch folks regularly on ICC after >>only one game.... >> >> >> >> >>>Further GMs who do evaluate, usually look through their database for games of >>>the opponent. A new player more than likely wont have to many games in database >>>until several years of passed, by which Time the player/fritz would have the >>>norms. >> >>right. Last time I talked with IM Mike Valvo at the last ACM event, he had >>his laptop, with about 1.5 gigs of chessbase games on it. According to him >>it was current to within two weeks of the ACM event. As I said, you are using >>your chess experience and assuming facts not in evidence. GM's are *much* more >>thorough. All you have to do is ask to confirm. Ask Mike (beetle on ICC) or >>Roman (roman on chess.net) or Larry (christiansen on chess.net) or any other >>GM you might recognize on one of the servers. You learn so much more when >>you ask and listen, rather than assume and write... >> >> >> >>>Recently at the world open a player named Khumana supposedly unrated >>>beat several masters in a row, and drew an IM, though there was interest in him, >>>most of his opponents if any of them saw the games he had played previously in >>>the tournament. Usually there are only 2 score sheets turned in,and they aren't >>>usually available that quickly. So Hyatt i really wish you would quit >>>pretending to know more than you actually know. >> >>I wish you'd do the same. At a major event, round-by-round bulletins are >>generally available before each round. So you can get all of yesterday's games >>before you play your game *today*. I don't know where you play your chess, but >>it must be in a clubhouse somewhere rather than at rated events. Even the >>ACM computer chess tournaments have round-by-round bulletins. >> >> >> >> >>>I have no doubt that you are >>>comparatively good in your specific field, so please stop with the fluff, it >>>just makes it seem if you think your skill is inadequate. I'm not here to fight >>>as you are apparently. Discuss the data, and experimental technique, that's all >>>that anyone cares about. >>> >>>O >> >> >>You should take your own advice. You make comments that are mostly wrong, >>based on assumptions that are mostly wrong, about things you have no idea >>about. And then you comment on "my scientific investigative ability." >>Something is certainly wrong...
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