Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:32:00 04/15/02
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On April 15, 2002 at 12:13:37, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 15, 2002 at 11:53:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 15, 2002 at 10:02:48, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:56:27, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:17:04, Claudio A. Amorim wrote: >>>> >>>>>So, are these the programs supposed to play at a 2700 level? Sure, they win many >>>>>games against strong humans, but... Where is their chess competency? Shredder´s >>>>>errors against Smirin were so elementary that they would not fit well in a >>>>>strong club player´s blitz game. >>>> >>>>Let's not go crazy over ONE game! we need to ask these questions after the >>>>match, also you can not say "So, are these the programs supposed to play at a >>>>2700 level?" when this is a games based on one programs performance! >>>>Other than that i agree, it was not pretty... >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>> >>>Thanks, Jonas people here are precipitating the outcome already based on one >>>single lost by Deep Shredder. I would like to point out that even Kasparov >>>himself lost several games in less than 35 moves to players less than 2700. It >>>is NOT that Computers programs which are estimated to be rated 2700 has >>>performed like a 1700, it simply did not calculated the outcome of the King Side >>>attack. >>> >>>Pichard >> >> >>Not "did not calculate". Instead, "did not understand"... > >Computers understand nothing. >They only calculate. > >The evaluation function is only calculation based on a formula that the >programmmer told the computer. > >Uri Then you don't "understand" anything either. The programs are doing things _very_ similarly to the way humans do them. Look for patterns, sum them up according to some neural net combination... "understanding" is built into the evaluation. "calculation" is what the search does. They _are_ different...
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