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Subject: Re: " You don't know what the h*ll you're talking about".

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 01:04:29 04/16/02

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On April 15, 2002 at 23:33:34, David Dory wrote:
>Mark has simply sped up the evalu8 function for Hiarcs latest version. Doesn't
>mean that he's improved the strength of the program much.
>
>Of course, he SAYS it's "much stronger", but it's probably a very small strength
>improvement, indeed. He's gotta hype his product a _little_.

Maybe, we will have to wait for the testers to do their job on this thing.

>Here's the kind of improvement I'm talking about - not hype - facts.
>
>This is taken from Jonathan Schaeffer's book ONE JUMP AHEAD**. In it, he
>documents the hardware improvement on his previous chess program, PHOENIX.
>
>Year              Seconds to Complete Test
>===========================================
>1989                     3,500
>1990                     1,800
>1991                     1,327
>1993                       629
>1994                       357
>
>THAT'S what I'm talking about, Sune. A ten fold increase in STRICTLY HARDWARE.
>in only FIVE years!

Great, now we only need the data on the how the software evolved if we want to
compare and conclude _anything_ ;)

>(The Phoenix program was already retired, and unchanged during this time. It was
>used only to provide a test of the hardware.)
>
>THIS is the kind of improvement that has being going on in HARDWARE. It's a
>fact, (whether you like it or not), it's not "somebody said" or "should be" or
>any of the hype.
>
>Most of the improvement in chess strength in the last 20 years has been due to
>HARDWARE improvements.

And if you repeat it a 1000 times more, maybe even you will start to believe
it... ;)

>Even if all the hype says otherwise.
>
>Dave
>
>**Page 466

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