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Subject: Re: Anti-GM - Is the Original Rebel Example Sound?

Author: blass uri

Date: 11:32:21 07/17/98

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On July 17, 1998 at 14:02:14, Howard Exner wrote:

>On July 17, 1998 at 05:52:03, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 16, 1998 at 18:59:31, Howard Exner wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 1998 at 15:12:57, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On July 16, 1998 at 07:01:07, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 16, 1998 at 01:42:30, blass uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>>>Is white still ok with 1. Rxe6 fxe6 2. Bh6 a6 3. Bxa6 Qc7 4. Nxe6 Qc6 5. Bxb7
>>>Qxb7 6. Re1 ...
>>after 6.Re1 Qc6 black has the advantage according to my programs.
>>I think the line1. Rxe6 fxe6 2. Bh6 a6 3. Bxa6 Qc7 4. Nxe6 Qc6 5. Bxb7
>>Qxb7 is good for black.
>
>Yes this line is good for black. Is Qf3 a better move than 7.Rxe6 ?
>
>Here's what I'm getting in this position:
>1. Rxe6 fxe6 2. Bh6 a6 3. Bxa6 Qc7 4. Nxe6 Qc6 5. Bxb7 Qxb7 6. Re1 Qc6
>7. Qf3 Ne5 8. Ng7+ Kd8 9. Qe4 Bf6 10. Nc5
>
>>
>>I believe Rxe6 is good for computers against humans(even against anand in 15
>>minutes per game) if they play after fxe6 Bh6 because after Bh6 there is no
>>simple forced line humans can calculate like after Nxe6.
>
>Yes, Bh6 would have to be played next in this Rxe6 line. Computers will
>sometimes play the "right" move for the wrong reasons. This looks line
>one of those times. Not that Rxe6
>is the absolute right move but probably no worse than other choices like
>Qd3 or Bh6. My enjoyment of the game is that there is not always a best move to
>make. "Best move" depends on who one is playing and on ones playing style.
>I recall one of the classic Kasparov-Karpov games where Kasparov said
>that "he knew Karpov would not play Nxb5 because it is just not his style".
>Karpov too was often quoted by various chess authors, when he said something
>like - why choose the complicated road to victory when a longer strategical path
>will win (that's not the quote but the meaning is contained in it).Karpov
>also writes often, "there are many roads leading to Rome".(you can tell I'm
>a fan of Karpov). Computers on the other hand seem bound by ordering best moves
>based on a fraction of a score (but I believe Bob Hyatt is implementing some
>code that will play different moves against weaker opponents in order to avoid
>unnecessary draws).
>
>What is the name of your chess program? Have you worked on it a long time?
I have Junior,Fritz5 and Genius3
yes I gave Junior more than an hour.
I am going to check the line you gave

Uri
>>
>>Uri
>>>
>>>I'm still not ready to dismiss Rxe6 as unsound. Bob or fca, what are you
>>>finding here? Uri, your analysis here is helping to sort this complicated
>>>position out. My intuitive quess was that Rxe6 is a good move for computers
>>>to make against humans in the absence of a much stronger move
>>>as it compliments their strength - open, tactical positions.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I did not decide if to play Qc7 or to play Bxa6 and sacrifise my queen



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