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Subject: Re: what is the level of computer programs in correspondence chess?

Author: Hans Christian Lykke

Date: 23:13:29 07/17/98

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On July 17, 1998 at 20:10:49, Amir Ban wrote:

>On July 17, 1998 at 19:48:20, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 1998 at 22:21:28, Joe McCarron wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 1998 at 11:27:58, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>do computer programs play in correspondence chess against humans
>>>>and if yes I have 2 questions:
>>>>1)what is the international rating?
>>>>2)do their opponents know they play against a computer?
>>>>
>>>>I am sure computers have no chance against good players
>>>>but they are many correspondence players who do not use a computer
>>>>because they feel it is unethical.
>>>>
>>>>I know that in many correspondence games
>>>>weak players do tactical mistakes because they do not use a computer.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>I once read that humans have the best chance against computers at roughly over
>>>the board tournament time controls.  But I would also be interested in finding
>>>out how computers do in coorespondance as I would also think humans do better.
>>
>>
>>Computers get crushed pretty badly playing strong players at correspondence
>>chess. If I remember right IM Mike Valvo played (DT) in a 2 game match at
>>correspondece chess. Mike crushed it even though DT was thinking many hours per
>>move, and hitting 30 plies in its search. I remember reading how shocked the
>>programmers were at how badly the program lost. Even if Deep Blue was playing I
>>think the results would have been the same. This shows how much more room there
>>is left to improve programs.
>
>
>Please post those games.
>
>Amir


The games are here:

[Event "?"]
[Site "USA"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Deep Thought"]
[Black "Valvo Michael J"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C31"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 c6 4. Nc3 exf4 5. Nf3 Bd6 6. d4 Ne7 7. dxc6
Nbxc6 8. d5 Nb4 9. Bc4 0-0 10. a3 b5 11. Bb3 Na6 12. Nxb5 Qa5+ 13. Nc3
Nc5 14. Ba2 Ba6 15. b4 Qc7 16. bxc5 Rfe8 17. Ne2 Qxc5 18. c4 Nxd5 19. Qd4
Qxd4 20. Nxd4 Bc5 21. Kd2 Ne3 22. Kc3 Rac8 23. Bb2 Nxg2 24. Raf1 Rcd8
25. Rhg1 Re3+ 26. Kd2 f3 27. Rxf3 Rxf3 28. Rxg2 Rh3 29. Kc1 g6 30. a4
Bb7 31. Rf2 Ba8 32. Bb1 Rb8 33. Ba2 Rd3 34. Rf4 Rd2 35. Kxd2 Rxb2+ 36. Nc2
Rxa2 37. Nc3 Rb2 38. Rf6 Kg7 39. Rf1 f5 40. Nd5 Bxd5 41. cxd5 Rb3 42. h4
Kf6 43. Re1 Rh3 44. Re6+ Kf7 45. a5 Rxh4 46. Rc6 Bb4+ 47. Nxb4 Rxb4 48. Rc7+
Kf6
0-1

[Event "?"]
[Site "USA"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Valvo Michael J"]
[Black "Deep Thought"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B03"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. c4 Nb6 5. f4 dxe5 6. fxe5 Nc6 7. Be3 Bf5
8. Nc3 e6 9. Nf3 Bg4 10. Be2 Bxf3 11. gxf3 Qh4+ 12. Bf2 Qf4 13. c5 Nd7
14. Qc1 Qf5 15. Qb1 Qxb1+ 16. Rxb1 0-0-0 17. f4 Be7 18. Rd1 g5 19. fxg5
Bxg5 20. Bf3 f5 21. 0-0 Nb4 22. Rfe1 Rhg8 23. Kh1 c6 24. a3 Na6 25. b4
Nc7 26. a4 a6 27. Re2 Be7 28. Rb2 Nd5 29. Nxd5 cxd5 30. b5 axb5 31. axb5
Rg7 32. Ra1 Nb8 33. Rba2 Rdg8 34. Ra8 Bg5 35. b6 Bd8 36. Bh5 Rf8 37. Be2
Rfg8 38. Be3 h5 39. Rb1 Be7 40. Bb5 Bd8 41. Ba4 f4 42. Bxf4 Rf7 43. Bh6
h4 44. Bb5 Be7 45. c6 bxc6 46. Bxc6 Rf3 47. Rba1 Ba3 48. Bd2
1-0

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