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Subject: Re: what is the level of computer programs in correspondence chess?

Author: Mark Young

Date: 15:30:21 07/18/98

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On July 18, 1998 at 06:36:47, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 17, 1998 at 19:48:20, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 1998 at 22:21:28, Joe McCarron wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 1998 at 11:27:58, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>do computer programs play in correspondence chess against humans
>>>>and if yes I have 2 questions:
>>>>1)what is the international rating?
>>>>2)do their opponents know they play against a computer?
>>>>
>>>>I am sure computers have no chance against good players
>>>>but they are many correspondence players who do not use a computer
>>>>because they feel it is unethical.
>>>>
>>>>I know that in many correspondence games
>>>>weak players do tactical mistakes because they do not use a computer.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>I once read that humans have the best chance against computers at roughly over
>>>the board tournament time controls.  But I would also be interested in finding
>>>out how computers do in coorespondance as I would also think humans do better.
>>
>>
>>Computers get crushed pretty badly playing strong players at correspondence
>>chess. If I remember right IM Mike Valvo played (DT) in a 2 game match at
>>correspondece chess. Mike crushed it even though DT was thinking many hours per
>>move, and hitting 30 plies in its search.
>
>how could they see 30 plies deep?
>it seem impossible in brute force depth even after hours
>and if it is selective depth then it is possible to see more.
>
Im not sure. I am remembering a story I read almost 10 years ago. Im sure that
what it said, but don't remember all the details.



>Uri
>
>> I remember reading how shocked the
>>programmers were at how badly the program lost. Even if Deep Blue was playing I
>>think the results would have been the same. This shows how much more room there
>>is left to improve programs.



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