Author: blass uri
Date: 22:53:31 07/20/98
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On July 21, 1998 at 00:08:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 20, 1998 at 23:52:44, blass uri wrote: > >> >>I think if I use Junior5.0 on pentium400 (instead of deep blue) against the same >>programs (Fritz3, Genius3 on a pentium90 and other programs) then Junior5.0 has >>at least 70% chance of winning. >>I agree deep blue were unlucky and in that time they dominated the micros >>but I was talking about the micros of now when I said DeepThought >>is not better than the best micros >> >>Uri >> > >I posted a more correct Fredkin note earlier today, where I discovered that >Deep Thought produced a performance rating of over 2650 over 25 games to claim >the Fredkin stage II award. Exactly what program would you propose that can >play at this level on a microcomputer? I don't see any. Remember, we are >not talking about 4-5 games, because I can produce that many consecutive GM >vs Crafty games where Crafty won. I'm talking about 25 games in a row, with >out the ability to "cherry pick" the games, other than you can pick any 25 >consecutive games you want (at standard time controls of course.) if I look at the games of deepthought against computers I am not convinced deepthought is better than today's programs It did some positional errors that microcomputers do not do now. I suspect the result of >2650 of Deepthought was because of 2 factors: 1)the level of chess was improved and before some years it was easier to get >2650 performance 2)Today humans know to play better against computer programs I know the performance of deepthoght in the last tournament it participated in 1991(Hanover Tournament) was 2410. it had 2.5 out of 7 against grandmasters in the Hanover Tournament Uri > >And today, there's no program that can do that. And don't forget that DT was >a fraction of what DB and DB2 were/are... > > > >>> >>>Also I believe that MOST of the field would have won at least >>>one of these 100 touraments. I believe the difference between the >>>very best micro and Deep Thought at this tournament was much >>>less than the difference between the best micro and the worst >>>10 percent. I think there is a large range of strengths in >>>the programs that show up at these tournaments. >>> >>> >>>- Don
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