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Subject: Re: Fritz is a GM

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 20:47:40 07/21/98

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>>>no.. you miss the point.  There is *nothing* that says that a GM can't
>>>"play his own game."  Nothing at all.  Forget Kasparov.  He followed bad
>>>advice, practiced against Fritz thinking it was preparing him for Deep Blue,
>>>and he got just what he deserved.  But did you watch Anand vs Fritz?  Anand
>>>didn't "play weird chess".. he just didn't let Fritz have a chance tactically.
>>>
>>>That's quite different from what you are thinking, I'm afraid.  You seem to
>>>be assuming that avoiding an open position means giving up too much.  I'm
>>>saying that a GM can *do both*.  Avoid tactics *and* play his own game.  Anand
>>>proved it against Fritz.  Let's watch against Rebel then continue this...
>>
>>You are missing the point, not me.  I AGREE with your point, you
>>completely ignore mine.
>>
>>Your point is that Anand is skillful enough to avoid tactics *and*
>>play his own game.   This is not the point I was making.
>>
>>I will have to resort to a more extreme example.  Let's say that
>>I magically developed the amazing ability to win EVERY game where
>>my opponent castles king side.  But in every other way I did not
>>improve at all.  When you played against me, you would eventually
>>learn that you could never EVER castle king side.  I can imagine
>>you saying, "Oh, that's no problem, I'll just never castle king
>>side!"   Do you see the problem?   Even though you have managed
>>to avoid my strengths, I still have extracted an advantage from
>>this ability.   You might argue that you are good enough to beat
>>me anyway, but that is a completely different point.  And it's
>>not the point I am arguing.
>>
>>- Don
>
>
>I don't see the problem.  Because if you can win every game where I castle
>kingside, and I figure this out, I take one or two extra moves and castle
>queen-side.  And I roll your program up into a small wad.  So such a band-aid
>won't cut it against a GM player.  It would only work *if* you could win every
>such game, and *if* you could also punish me for taking 1-2 extra moves to make
>way to castle queen-side.


Ok, I concede.


- Don



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