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Subject: Re: Junior hase a BUG (!!) and this is then not a technical problem!

Author: Pierre Bourget

Date: 16:11:39 04/25/02

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On April 25, 2002 at 19:03:03, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

>On April 25, 2002 at 18:56:53, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On April 25, 2002 at 18:54:22, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On April 25, 2002 at 18:14:26, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 25, 2002 at 17:54:45, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 25, 2002 at 17:40:43, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>Can you give a winning line for the final position.  I would be interested in
>>>>>seeing a win since Junior couldn't seem to find one.
>>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>GM Smirin says the games was lost. GM Smirin offerd his resignation to Shay.
>>>>Shay Refused the Resignation and offerd draw. GM Smirin refused to take a draw
>>>>in a lost position.....So the game will be replayed. In short DJ won the game,
>>>>but for reasons only known to Shay he would not take the win. IMO the win is
>>>>valid and he should of taken the win since GM Smirin was in a dead lost
>>>>position, the Tech problems happend after the position was dead lost for GM
>>>>Smirin.
>>>
>>>When a program cannot this easy win, than is this not a technical problem.
>>>Dj played only bad moves in a easy win position - this is a BUG and not
>>>a technical problem!
>>
>>How do you know Junior can not find the win...the game stopped. The end position
>>is dead lost and a easy win for computers. Do you have the version that was
>>playing?
>
>I think that is better to wait for Chessbase to put on their website the
>complete report of what went on tonight.
>I had an impression of a computer hang, but that's just conjecture.
>I only know for sure that Smirin was in zugzwang when all this happened.
>
>w.b.r.
>Otello

It seems that there are always problems around Deep Junior ,remember against
Michael Adams in KasparovChess Grand Prix in 2000 where Adams got a win by
default.I am not sure but i think it was a communication problem.Unlucky this
Deep Junior.

Pierre



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