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Subject: Re: Smirin match conclusion?!

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 14:00:05 04/29/02

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On April 29, 2002 at 16:42:03, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 29, 2002 at 13:46:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2002 at 13:01:24, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>Please see:
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?226863
>>>
>>>w.b.r.
>>>Otello
>>
>>
>>What does that have to do with the point I made?  Smirin was _winning_ in
>>the first three games.  He won one and drew the other two due to making
>>mistakes, most likely caused by time pressure in the fairly short time
>>control used...
>>
>>He should have lost against Junior.  That would have been three wins, then
>>a loss and then a draw and another win against tiger, out of six games...
>>
>>Smirin was lucky to get to play Junior again rather than losing.  But then
>>he was very unlucky to lose two won games and having to settle for draws due
>>to time problems.
>>
>>He is still less "lucky" than the programs, in that regard...
>
>The question is what is the definition of being lucky.
>
>I do not think that missing a win means being unlucky.
>If a player gets a winning position in all of his games and lose
>or draw big part of them because of time trouble than he is not unlucky.
>
>In this case the player has a weakness that the opponents takes advantage of it.
>
>If smirin regular ability is often not enough to win won positions at 60 10 time
>control then it is not luck.
>The time control is not luck but something that the players agreed before the
>game.
>
>The fact that smirin could probably do better at tournament time control is
>irrelevant for deciding if smirin was lucky.
>
>If smirin scores better than the average result that he can expect based on his
>ability then he is lucky.
>
>If he scores worse than the average result that he can expect then he is
>unlucky.
>
>Uri

Same thing apply to the computers then. It is not possible to say that CT was
unlucky as somebody suggested.

Miguel




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