Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 15:18:03 04/30/02
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On April 30, 2002 at 11:31:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On April 30, 2002 at 06:16:06, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2002 at 00:39:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 29, 2002 at 23:55:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 29, 2002 at 21:28:21, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Interesting Fritz 1 on a Celeron 433 Mhz search up to depth 13, but Comet B42 on
>>>>>the same Celeron 433 Mhz can only search up to depth 12. This is when I set it
>>>>>up to game in 30 minutes. Of course that Comet B42 is about 350 Elo points
>>>>>higher than Fritz 1, but Comet B42 could be optimized to search higher than 12.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Where have you seen that Comet is 350 elo points higher than Fritz 1.0???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>I do not know about the rating difference but Comet is certainly stronger than
>>>Fritz1.
>>>
>>>I do not care about the depthes.
>>>It is impossible to compare depths of different programs and I guess that
>>>CometB42 can see at depth 12 more than what Fritz1 can see at depth 13 and I
>>>think about tactics and not about positional understanding.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>I wasn't comparing depthes to strength, all that I mentioned was that it was
>>interesting to see the first ptogram by Frans "Fritz 1" to be able to search at
>>Depth 13 on a Celeron 433 Mhz. The knowledge of Fritz 1 in 1991 Could NOT be
>>compared to Comet B42, but by being able to search at that depth and reaching a
>>rating of 2008 in a mere 386/25 Mhz was impressived.
>
>
>
>Match it against Comet and you might be even more surprised.
>
>And after that we will talk again about your supposed 350 elo points difference
>between the two and the supposed superiority of knowledge.
>
>
>
> Christophe
You've made me curious, Christophe.
So I started a match Comet B.43 on my slow machine K6/450 with its private book
under the Fritz6-GUI against Fritz 1.20 under the Fritz5/16Bit GUI using the
Fritz 5 book on my fast machine.
Unfortunately, I don't own the secrete Fritz5 autoplayer; so I have to operate
manually. Time control is game in 25 minutes, permanent brain on.
First game was an easy win for Comet. After this game, I don't expect a great
result for Fritz-1 though having a hardware advantage of almost a factor of 3.
I hope, I 'll find time to collect a couple of games in the next days.
[Event "Level=Blitz:25'. "]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "2002.04.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Comet B.43 / K6-450"]
[Black "Fritz 1.20 / Athlon 2000"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B92"]
[PlyCount "99"]
[EventDate "2002.04.30"]
{47MB, empty.ctg. Z1L9Y6
} 1. e4 {0.01/1 0} 1... c5 {16} 2. Nf3 {0.01/1 0}
2... d6 {9} 3. d4 {0.01/1 0} 3... cxd4 {8} 4. Nxd4 {0.01/1 0} 4... Nf6 {9} 5.
Nc3 {0.01/1 0} 5... a6 {8} 6. Be2 {0.01/1 0} 6... e5 {9} 7. Nb3 {0.01/1 0} 7...
Be7 {9} 8. O-O {0.01/1 0} 8... O-O {9} 9. Kh1 {0.01/1 0} 9... Nbd7 {8} 10. a4 {
0.01/1 0} 10... b6 {8} 11. f3 {0.01/1 0} 11... Bb7 {8} 12. Be3 {0.01/1 0} 12...
Qc7 {7} 13. Rf2 {0.01/1 0} 13... Rfd8 {10} 14. Bf1 {0.01/1 0} 14... Rac8 {10}
15. Rd2 {0.01/1 0} 15... Nc5 {24} 16. Nxc5 {0.24/9 35} 16... dxc5 {19} 17. Bc4
{0.23/9 9} 17... Ra8 {75} 18. Qe2 {0.32/9 41} 18... Rxd2 {69} 19. Bxd2 {
0.32/11 0} 19... h6 {84} 20. Rd1 {0.60/10 57} 20... Bd6 {23} 21. Kg1 {
0.64/10 54} 21... Be7 {82} 22. Be3 {0.61/11 0} 22... Bd8 {32} 23. b3 {0.67/9 25
} 23... Ra7 {42} 24. Nd5 {0.86/9 32} 24... Nxd5 {43} 25. Bxd5 {0.78/11 0} 25...
Bxd5 {33} 26. Rxd5 {0.77/11 2} 26... a5 {48} 27. c3 {0.73/10 0} 27... Kf8 {44}
28. Qb5 {0.73/10 35} 28... Rb7 {38} 29. Qc4 {0.71/9 34} 29... Bf6 {39} 30. Bf2
{0.69/10 33} 30... g6 {33} 31. Be3 {0.86/10 32} 31... Bg7 {39} 32. Qd3 {
0.79/9 39} 32... Ke7 {48} 33. Qd2 {1.12/10 30} 33... h5 {57} 34. Bh6 {1.15/9 20
} 34... Bxh6 {44} 35. Qxh6 {1.43/9 5} 35... Ke6 {13} 36. c4 {1.71/10 11} 36...
Rb8 {45} 37. f4 {2.66/10 0} 37... exf4 {10} 38. Qg5 {3.18/10 18} 38... Rf8 {31}
39. e5 {4.20/10 0} 39... f6 {11} 40. Qxg6 {4.41/9 16} 40... f3 {56} 41. Rd6+ {
4.47/7 19} 41... Ke7 {71} 42. Qxh5 {4.84/9 0} 42... f2+ {37} 43. Kf1 {5.29/8 26
} 43... Qb7 {42} 44. Qg6 {7.40/7 17} 44... Qc7 {22} 45. Rxf6 {6.87/7 17} 45...
Rxf6 {22} 46. Qxf6+ {6.75/9 0} 46... Ke8 {29} 47. Qh8+ {7.24/9 0} 47... Kd7 {49
} 48. Qh7+ {10.95/12 0} 48... Kc8 {15} 49. Qxc7+ {13.25/12 0} 49... Kxc7 {7}
50. h4 {13.96/13 10} 1-0
Uli
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