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Subject: Re: So which programs beat which, only due to superior chess understanding?

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 13:36:09 05/06/02

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On May 05, 2002 at 19:58:01, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 05, 2002 at 19:25:07, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>I mean, where are we? I cannot make it out yet.
>>Can we safely say that a top program of today can beat all programs from before
>>1996, i.e. 1995 and below? Which program, and if so, can we say that it is due
>>to true chess understanding and correctness, or just due to greater power to
>>calculate all the tactics? And even THAT maybe not, because even that might only
>>be due to seeing the extra ply or so.
>> But what about true chess knowledge? I mean long-term planning, and playing for
>>minute advantages etc?
>> Can any prgram of today beat all programs until a certain year, due to that
>>knowledgs alone?
>>
>>I feel that if a 1995 program can beat a top program of today in even one game,
>>that means that there are aspects which that older program knows better than the
>>new one, or why else would it win?
>>S.Taylor
>
>  "Understanding" belongs to humans... at least now. Understanding is a
>difficult to define term, but IMO it implies synthesis and analysis
>capabilities. Computers are great analysts, but they are not able to synthesize,
>this is, going from concrete it to the abstract. For example, you can see a
>position and then get a _similar_ position in one of your games; then, you are
>able to recognize the similarities and apply the same plan. That is called
>inductive inference, and computers are still far from being able to do that
>themselves.
>
>  José C.

Inductive inference is the oldest branch of computational learning theory but is
still evolving quite actively.

w.b.r.
Otello



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