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Subject: Re: Two Possible Reasons Why Hiarcs8 is Getting bad reviews

Author: pavel

Date: 23:31:20 05/13/02

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On May 14, 2002 at 02:02:13, Sune Larsson wrote:

>On May 14, 2002 at 01:29:59, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2002 at 22:30:32, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2002 at 20:42:55, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 13, 2002 at 20:36:44, John Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, I have heard reports of Phony Hiarcs being passed around, I suspect
>>>>>there are some people testing the Psuedo Hiarcs. My own results have shown
>>>>>Hiarcs8 to be exceptionally strong, comparable to Fritz for sure. Number 2: It
>>>>>may be that the book testers are using with Hiarcs is Bad, Personally I am using
>>>>>a 500 mb book I downloaded from the net. There is no other Logical explanation
>>>>>for all these negative Posts. Also it  is possible that the program is not being
>>>>>tested at longer time controls, all my games are atleast game in 60.  Any
>>>>>thoughts?
>>>>---------------
>>>>Well this is interesting news, as one of the testers shows Hiarcs 8 not
>>>>performing very well at game in 60 minutes! Maybe some of the problems are due
>>>>to Hiarc's opening book!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>      Terry
>>>
>>>Perhaps, but you shouldn't have to download a 500MB opening book for the program
>>>to play well.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>Hiarcs 8 comes with an own, dedicated (! maintained by Eric Hallsworth in >1
>>year) opening book which is already large enough (280MB), there is absolutely no
>>need to download a 500MB book. I have not seen Hiarcs playing badly. Hiarcs
>>sometimes sees a desaster to the own king later than the attacking programs
>>(there are some smart examples I have seen during my running Hiarcs8-GambitTiger
>>2 aggressive match but Hiarcs can keep the edge, at the moment 3.5-3.5) but this
>>is no issue of the opening book.
>
>
>>
>>In this regard, where does this 500MB book come from, thinking of copyright? Did
>>someone create it or is this an old powerbook?
>
>
>
> This is a non commercial project by E. Lunsen (Norway) with the help from
> chess interested people all over the world. This project started in nov-95
> and after 6 years of work resulted in the "Lunsen Book". He gives special
> credit to (among others) Vladimir Sokolov at the University of Rostov.
>
> http://www.uib.no/people/pfvaf/chesslib/Lunsen.htm
>
> Best regards
> Sune

Yes indeed, its a very good book, I have all the games in that webpage as my
database and the opening book too.

pavs



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