Author: leonid
Date: 05:19:56 05/18/02
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On May 18, 2002 at 00:08:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 17, 2002 at 15:18:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On May 16, 2002 at 19:43:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 16, 2002 at 11:28:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 16, 2002 at 06:22:48, leonid wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:50:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:39:54, leonid wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 17:41:07, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 11, 2002 at 11:57:34, leonid wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Recently I read a lot of discussion about new coming AMD's 64 bits chip. But >>>>>>>>>what is the situation with last Intel's 64 bits chip? Where he is now? Do >>>>>>>>>somebody really use this chip? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>>>Leonid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There bloody expencive! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Here's a link to IBM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2072508&smrfnbr=2072488&cntrfnbr=107824&cgmenbr=24188&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=126 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You may have to copy and paste this link!;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks for link! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To my surprise Intel 64 bits chip is real and can be bought in few computers. It >>>>>>>is true that price look like too high for me (15000 - 16000$), when its Mhz is >>>>>>>too low. Still only 800 Mhz. Will be nice to see some miracle from Intel in >>>>>>>order to push price down and Mhz up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Leonid. >>>>>> >>>>>>This is first generation IA64 from intel at 800Mhz. >>>>>> >>>>>>It is a very primitive CPU IMHO compared to their new chip, also >>>>>>this 800Mhz thing is very cheap compared to the new 1.2Ghz chip, >>>>>>considering the market they target at. >>>>> >>>>>You want to say that last chip is even more expensive? So, no hope to have it! >>>>> >>>>>Still it could be that in the next few years Intel will find its way to produce >>>>>some accessible chip. I do remember that first and slow Pentium was also >>>>>expensive. >>>>> >>>>>Leonid. >>>> >>>>please do not compare mass market P5 cpu which was made to produce as >>>>many as possible from them for a cheap price having a decent performance, >>>>with a supercomputer chip where nothing gets sacraficed in order to >>>>get a better performance. >>>> >>>>it's like a small car versus a formula 1 car. >>>> >>>>Also new generation formula 1 cars will be out of my budget, i'm >>>>pretty sure of that. >>>> >>>>Apart from that, how to drive with it on the normal road? >>> >>> >>>I don't follow this line of reasoning. _all_ "chips" are made with one >> >>Yeah right because you can afford these chips :) >> >>>purpose in mind: "sell as many as possible". You don't design a chip for >>>a very small market, and hope to make any money for it. That is why the Cray >>>didn't use a "chip" at all. You design a chip so that the R&D cost can be >>>amortized over a bunch of individual chip sales to drive the cost down. IE >>>chips are definitely "mass market" items. Not one-off things... >> >>A machine that's getting sold for around $20000 for a 2 processor version, >>that's a bit out of my range. >> >>Probably is for most persons. > >The same thing was said when the 80386 came out and everyone was running >286's... > > > >> >>Most can't even afford even a dual intel 2.53Ghz Xeon thing. Lucky >>that it is hell slower than a dual MP 1.6Ghz (MP1900) which you can >>buy here now in the shops for half of the price of the above thing. >> >>A machine in the price range up to $2500 i consider expensive but >>that is for some of us possible. >> >>A machine price range $20000 for just 2 processor 1.2Ghz (where > 1.6Ghz >>is the standard now) is just too expensive. >> > > >Just wait a few more years. 64 bit machines will be at the price point >of 32 bit machines today, and you will be saying "who needs these new >expensive 128 bit cpus?" Thanks! You make me really feel better. It is already for good 5 years that I wait for 64 bits chip that never come. I do remember that 32 bits chip was also slow to appear but finally it is now everywhere. >:) > > > > >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>Terry
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