Author: Howard Exner
Date: 12:33:14 07/29/98
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On July 29, 1998 at 08:34:35, Komputer Korner wrote: >On July 29, 1998 at 08:01:15, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>>Jeroen, you need Knut Neven's GIGANTIC BASE of 1.3 million games with less >>>than 4/10 ths of 1 % doubles. It has 3 games of 11.d5 It is hellishly complicated >>>but 11.d5 looks very good for white. It seems as if Anand did not properly >>>prepare for Rebel 10. >> >>Jeroen doesn't work that way. He prefers to do it the hard way by typing move >>by move to the Rebel book instead of extracting an opening book from a large >>database. This because the result is simply better. >> >>>Super GM's still do not have the proper respectfor micros! >> >>How do you know? >> >>>Congratulations on an excellent result. >> >>Thanks. >> >>>In the future let us see all the games at 40/2!!!!!!!! That will be the real test. >> >>This has always been my goal, a 6-8 game match on 40/2:00. Plans are >>already made for that in Italy during the last event so we are working on >>that. >> >>- Ed - > > >The super GMs know that the micros have't done the opening homework. This is >because the micros can't as of yet. There is no automated opening prep in the >micro coding. Thus Jeroen has to do it all. Since Jeroen is not a GM or strong >IM, he can't do as good a job as a player like Anand. Opening prep is not the equivalent of playing an over the board game. Given adequate time and resources a strong player like Jeroen is capable of unravelling complex opening systems as well as other chess positions. Think for a moment about correspondence chess players and the deep games they come up with. More than a few opening discoveries have been attributted to correspondence games. Should they be rejected because of a non-GM over the board rating? Does Anand do all of his opening prep himself or does he share this task with his seconds? Today Jeroen and anyone owning today's software can utilize these programs to see more deeply into games. We punch in a series of moves, use takeback, keep notes. Even I had the audacity to post awhile back that in game #7 Anand's 24th move, Bd2 should be reconsidered as not possibly best here. Instead I suggested Bg4, followed by a plan of putting the dark squared bishop on b2 and his remaining rook on g1 as a plan that might cause Rebel 10 more difficulty. >May I venture that the >comparison isn't even close despite the enormous amounts of money you pay >Jeroen:)))))))). I was never suggesting that you simply dump a DB into the book. >That would be ludicrous and would take years of losing from the bad lines to >weed out. So the super GM's approach any match with a micro as an exhibition >knowing that they can get away with not showing much opening prep or in the >games themselves not having to reveal any worthwhile novelties that they would >rather spring on their human opponents when the stakes are higher in $. I don't >know how much you had to pay Anand or how much the prize money was but I assume >that it wasn't much or else you would have announced it. It seems that Anand did >not have fun because of 2 reasons. 1) He enjoys the facial expressions and >gestures of his opponent. A metal box gives none of these. 2) Rebel 10 gave him >more than he was expecting and he had to work too hard for the money he was >making from the match. So he has now decided or so you tell us, that he won't >play any more of these as the money isn't enough to make him reveal his opening >novelties. Anand is a professional that has to spend long hours of opening prep >and if you want to see some of this work you have to 1) pay him lots of money to >induce him to play and 2) have a program strong enough to force him to play his >best stuff. It looks like at 40/2 neither of the 2 conditions are as yet >fulfilled. I am sure that without sponsors you yourself cannot afford to pay a >player like Anand what he wants for a 40/2 match of at least 6 games. As for me >knowing about the respect that GM's have for micros at 40/2, it follows that >because of the opening prep, the GM's know that they have an advantage in that >department even if all of the other advantages are dwindling away. Thus this >translates to a loss of respect. Sadly this won't change until programs get >strong enough so that a person like Jeroen plus Rebel X can outprepare a super >GM like Anand. > >-- >Komputer Korner
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