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Subject: Re: No again

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:21:00 05/31/02

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On May 31, 2002 at 02:54:06, Harald Faber wrote:

>On May 30, 2002 at 17:10:16, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2002 at 14:32:25, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>(...) But WHO
>>>in the world has the RIGHT to judge a WON position as DRAW just because it
>>>cannot be won in less than 50 moves??
>>>I still cannot believe ANYONE defending nor understanding that absolutely not
>>>understandable decision.
>>
>>It isn't the *position* which is judged as a draw, it's the *game*. The position
>>may contain a forceable mate in 87 moves. But - by definition - that chess game
>>can't be won due to the 50 moves rule, against best defense.
>>
>>It is a matter of definition (like: stalemate = draw). You could say, if it
>>needs more than 50 moves without pawn move or capture, it just isn't "won
>>enough" to score as a win. The rule reflects the tradition of chess as a game
>>(for humans, in the first place).
>>
>>We should also keep in mind that there are *very* long winning squences still
>>possible, if they *do* contain pawn moves or captures then and when...
>>
>>Regards,
>>M.Scheidl
>
>And? Who says that after 50 moves without catching a piece or making a pawn move
>the game is draw? Long long ago this might have been right. New researches
>should lay this 50 move rule ad acta. Can you tell me why exactly 50 moves? Why
>not 60? 40? 20? What is the reason for *50*? Who decided that, based on what?
>I still see no justification for a 50 move rule.

These are the rules.
There are a lot of rules when I do not understand the reason for them but I do
not complain.

1)What is the reason that I cannot castle when my opponent threats my king?

2)What is the reason that the position needs to repeat 3 times for a draw and
not only 2 times?

3)What is the reason that the queen cannot play from d1 to d3 when there is a
pawn at d2?

4)What is the reason that the board is 8*8 and not 8*10?

5)What is the reason that the target of the game is to do a checkmate and not to
capture one of the opponents knights?

I do not ask if there is a logical reason for the rules.
If you want to play with different rules then you are invited to do it but in
that case the game is not chess.

Uri



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