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Subject: Re: No again

Author: Mike S.

Date: 05:17:58 05/31/02

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On May 31, 2002 at 02:54:06, Harald Faber wrote:

>On May 30, 2002 at 17:10:16, Mike S. wrote:
>(...)
>>It is a matter of definition (like: stalemate = draw). You could say, if it
>>needs more than 50 moves without pawn move or capture, it just isn't "won
>>enough" to score as a win. The rule reflects the tradition of chess as a game
>>(for humans, in the first place).

>(...) New researches
>should lay this 50 move rule ad acta.

Chess is a *game* in the first place, not a scientific research project. I think
Uri is right (below).

The fact that mate can be forced in a position in >50 moves does not mean, that
the rules must make an exception. Why? These are two different things. The long
mates which were discovered, are results of research, IOW. tablebase generation.
- And the 50 move rule is part of the rules for the game.

Maybe a new edition of the tablebases would be usesful, which reflect that rule.
I'm sure it could be done somehow... with a 50 move counter which counts
backwards during tbs. generation probably. The tbs. info should show if there
are variations to mate without, or with such a 50 move sequence (the latter
therefore being evaluated as draws).

Until then, it will happen that half points are wasted due to the use of
tablebases, for that reason (too).

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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