Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 19:29:44 06/10/02
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On June 10, 2002 at 15:28:14, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>i have read somewhere (i think it was hinted in one of the interviews which
>frank morsch gave to one of the indian newspapers)that at any given time, there
>are several different versions of fritz being developed:- the inference being
>that and the one that is actually released is not necessarily the strongest one;
>its the one that is just strong enough.
>
>frank morsch apparently has one ready whenever a new upstart arrives on the
>scene.i wont be surprised if there is no new fritz till something overtakes the
>current version.
>
>rajen
It does not make sense.
Look at the small margin between Fritz and the program just behind it (Tiger) on
the SSDF.
Why would Frans take the risk of publishing an engine that might fail to achieve
the first place on the SSDF if he has something better?
Believe me, when we (the commercial programmers) release an engine we release
the strongest we have.
"Strong enough" is out of question. We release the strongest possible thing or
nothing.
Don't even dream of an hypothetical, hidden, stronger version.
Christophe
>On June 10, 2002 at 09:05:14, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On June 10, 2002 at 05:12:12, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On June 09, 2002 at 23:07:04, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 09, 2002 at 22:22:55, john rice wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>With Tiger 14 already so close to Fritz7 in strength, isn't it safe to assume
>>>>>Tiger 15 will be significantly stronger?
>>>>>JR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually I'm expecting Fritz7 to fall under Chess Tiger 14 in the next SSDF
>>>>list. After all Fritz has already lost 20 elo points in the last list. Only 8
>>>>points left, and Tiger 14 is back at the top spot. :)
>>>>
>>>>Then why release Tiger 15? :) :)
>>>>
>>>>Just kidding of course. Fritz7 is a terrific engine and Frans has done as usual
>>>>a great job. We will see if Tiger 15 can do better. I hope so, but who knows?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>You are really a honest man - no standard bullshit about >50 points
>>>improvements...
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Yes, he IS. It seems to be a principle by him. Sometimes it's humorously modest.
>>I really do hope that Tiger 15 will clearly edge out everything previous,
>>including Fritz, but I also get the feeling that Fritz has edged out all others
>>which are below it. Yes there are others which are very close, but I see, also
>>from other tests at other time levels (and non ssdf) that Fritz seems to be a
>>clear leader, so that if you have only one program and you want to get the
>>truest analysis of a position from a program, then the latest Fritz is the
>>answer.
>>
>>The only problem I did feel about Fritz 7 at the beginning, was that when
>>matched with Junior 7, Junior always crushed Fritz in the first few games, until
>>Fritz recovered and overtook it. So I thought that Fritz was only good because
>>of the learning feature. It WAS strange to me.
>>No one ever answered that up to me.
>>S.Taylor
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