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Subject: Re: Crafty 18.15 vs Comet B45 Final score 22.5 to 13.5

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:18:14 06/11/02

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On June 11, 2002 at 09:47:31, Tina Long wrote:

>On June 11, 2002 at 09:23:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On June 11, 2002 at 08:55:58, Tina Long wrote:
>>
>>>On June 11, 2002 at 08:27:01, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>You can run any program against itself 30 times or 1000 times and the difference
>>>>would never be more than 30%. It doesn't matter how many times you let a match
>>>>run up to, if the difference is over a margin of 30%, then you should stop it.
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>Jorge.
>>>
>>>30 games, result 17-13, difference 30.7% = 17/13 -1.
>>>
>>>You say this would never happen.
>>>I say it would happen around 22% of the time.
>>>
>>>Tina Long
>>
>>I miscalculated I meant to say Not over 50% like in Crafty vs Comet B45. The
>>chance of this happenning is very limited.
>
>30 games, result 18-12, difference 50% = 18/12 -1.
>You say this would never happen (revised to "very limited")
>I say it (or greater than 50% difference) would happen around 16.6% of the time.
>
>Tina Long

I think that it is dependent on the programs that you test.

If the program that you test draw 90% of the games then I expect it almost never
to happen.

If the programs that you test win with white in 90% of their games and lose with
black in 90% of the games then I also expect it almost never to happen(I assume
that you are fair and gives every program 15 games with white.

In the practical case I expect it to happen but I did not calculate how often it
is going to happen.

In the match between Fritz and Junior the result was 5-0 after 5 games and
Fritz won the next 19 games 13-6.

I believe that 18-12 has bigger probability than both 5-0 and 13-6 between equal
programs and if you assume that the programs were not equal then it is clear
that in at least one of these results the inferior program won.

Uri



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