Author: Robert Henry Durrett
Date: 17:28:30 06/17/02
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On June 17, 2002 at 20:18:31, Dann Corbit wrote: >On June 17, 2002 at 20:13:26, Robert Henry Durrett wrote: > >> >>I recently contacted Chessbase [info@chessbase.com] and received an email >>response saying that they will soon provide the information I requested, and >>more, about the computer. It will appear on their Chessbase News webpage. >> >>In the meantime, it's not too late to speculate! >> >>While discussing the computer [for the Kramnik match] with my son, who is here >>at my house for a visit, he noted that "there are plenty of 64-bit 64-processor >>computers running under UNIX." When pressed for details, he could not give me >>any because he does not use such "beasts" in his job. Maybe someone here is >>more familiar with this? >> >>The commercial version of Fritz runs on PCs that have Windows operating systems >>simply because the customers want to put Fritz on their home PCs, which run >>under Windows. >> >>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for >>the Kramnik match cannot run under UNIX? >> >>Essentially the same situation applies for word length. The Fritz customers >>have 32-bit computers, so Fritz is designed to run on those 32-bit computers. >> >>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for >>the Kramnik match cannot be a 64-bit computer? i.e. have a 64-bit deep fritz >>running under UNIX? >> >>If so, do any of the "UNIX-types" here at ICD/CCC know how fast the processors >>could be in that case? Which processors would they use? >> >>What do you think? Is an 8-processor 64-bit computer running under UNIX a >>possibility for the Deep Fritz versus Kramnik October 2002 match? > >Not a snowflake's chance in the proverbial place of eternal punishment. Do you mean "Hell"? > >The whole purpose of the match is to sell computer chess programs. The >ChessBase company wants to recoup some of the zillion dollars they are putting >on the line, and I certainly do not blame them. This is not a pure scientific >experiment with a desire to find out facts. It is a way to make money. My gut feel [intuition] makes me feel that you are right, even though I really don't want it to be so. > >Now, nobody is going to buy 64 bit Fritz for Linux. OK, maybe one in a million >of the sales they would have for Win32. Can anyone seriously imagine that they >would run it on anything except a Win32 platform? But I just did! > >Now, they might get an 8 CPU 64 bit version of Windows and use that. Most Win32 >users will have no clue that that system is a trillion miles from theirs and >they can still use the performance to drive sales. True. Most computer users are really not up to speed on the guts of computers and software. There is a counter argument: The Fritz guys may REALLY WANT to win this match! If they could get a much more powerful computer by using UNIX [or LINIX???] than they could get by using windows, then they might be tempted. Since you brought up the subject of Hell, I am reminded of stories about people making deals with the "head man" in Hell. [I am reluctant to mention his name.] Maybe such a deal? :) Seriously, is it not true that the switch from Windows to Unix would allow them to use a much faster and more powerful computer? [Faster processors, etc.]. The schedules published by Intel and others do not seem to allow for really fast 8-processor computers running under Windows in the near term. At least, that is my understanding. Bob D.
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