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Subject: Re: Calculating Computer Ratings????

Author: Shaun Graham

Date: 23:24:53 08/03/98

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On August 04, 1998 at 01:02:28, blass uri wrote:

>
>On August 03, 1998 at 23:31:51, Shaun Graham wrote:
>
>>On August 03, 1998 at 22:13:55, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On August 03, 1998 at 15:39:47, Shaun Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>However, the "standard" still applies... If you *assume* all programs are 2400
>>>>>and one is a "killer"...  then *that* program is going to be 2800+ very quickly,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Robert i think you are just trying to argue again:), because if there was a
>>>>program so "killer" that it could defeat all top programs all the time, then it
>>>>would be 2800!
>>>
>>>I do not agree because I think the difference of 400 ELO between computers
>>>is not the same as between humans.
>>>
>>>For example a good human player can lose a game against a weaker opponent
>>>because he did not feel well.
>>
>>I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but i'll take a stab.  The point you
>>seem to be missing here, is that a sick human rated 2400, is not playing at >2400 strength.
>
>I agree but when we compute the rating of the human we calculate rating that is
>based also on the games he played when he was sick.

I still don't know what you are trying to say
>
>The point is that the same difference in rating between computer programs
>will give a higher result for the better program because the better program is
>never sick.

No it wont give a higher result, if the program plays at 2400, then it will have
a rating of 2400.  The human 2400 that gets sick an plays will lose rating
points and not be 2400 but 23xx.
>
>I also do not think if the difference in rating is 400 the player with the lower
>rating has no chance.
>
>I did 1 time in my life a draw with a human 400 ELO above me and
>I know a 2000 player who won against a grandmaster one game.
>(The grandmaster falled into a trap the 2000 player planned at home).
>
>Uri
>
>> When we say a human is 2400 what we mean is that his average
>>performance equals 2400.  If there was a computer or even a human that >could beat all top programs 100% of the time they would be 2800 or even >more.
>
>>Kasparov can't beat all top programs 100% of the time



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