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Subject: Re: GIGI

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 06:24:38 07/12/02

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On July 12, 2002 at 07:59:46, pavel wrote:

>On July 12, 2002 at 07:05:38, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On July 12, 2002 at 01:03:28, ERNIE COLLADO wrote:
>>
>>>The game I played with Spassky was at a simul held in NY around 30 yaers ago.
>>>1974 or around there. Needless to say I was decapitated rather quickly. I will
>>>try and look through my files and see if I can find the game. <Regards, Ernie>
>>
>>I'm sure that anyone who can win 1.5 from 20 games with Fritz 7 (at any of the
>>serious modes with equal timings), can easily beat any GM at a simultaneous
>>exhibition.
>>Tell me I'm wrong! Anyone?
>>S.Taylor
>
>Yes you are wrong.
>I once almost beat Fritz7 with the aid of my anti-computer games database, but
>at the endgame, I made a blunder and lost the game. (fritz7 had around -3.00)
>You might say that I had aid of a special purpose database (which is true), if I
>can do this (being 1500-ish) than think about the people who has excellent
>understanding about anti-computer chess.
>they don't necessarily need to be impressively high rated player.
>
>A good example would be, if you can visit ICC (even with guest account) try
>checking out the games that computers loose (commercial programs) at blitz games
>to un-titled human players.....sweet.
>
>I don't see any relation between beating Fritz7 and beating a GM easily in a
>simultaneous exhibition.
>
>bad example...
>
>cheers,
>pavs
Nearly winning is also a very big difference in ELO than actually winning, but
if the "nearly" is genuine, it only shows promise.
Also, I mean at equal timing, and without taking back moves, let alone being
aided.
I'd still like to hear if others disagree whith me.

Anti-computer understanding can help alot, but it's not enough.
 Anyway, isn't it a shame to always try to outsmart a computer through
anti-computer "tactics"? Is that all computer programs were made for? Still,
their holes are getting smaller and closing up, aren't they?
S.Taylor



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