Author: Peter Berger
Date: 13:38:28 07/20/02
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On July 20, 2002 at 16:08:18, Christophe Theron wrote: >On July 20, 2002 at 16:02:25, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On July 20, 2002 at 15:26:12, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On July 20, 2002 at 07:07:07, Jan Kiwitter wrote: >>> >>>>On July 20, 2002 at 06:06:46, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>>> >>>>>[Event "Tony Hedlund"] >>>>>[Site "SSDF"] >>>>>[Date "2002.07.19"] >>>>>[Round "4"] >>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 14.9a Palm"] >>>>>[Black "Genuis 1 486/66"] >>>>>[BlackElo "2182"] >>>>>[Result "1-0"] >>>>>[ECO "B25"] >>>>>[Opening "Sicilian: Closed"] >>>>> >>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. d3 d6 6. a3 Nf6 7. Nf3 O-O >>>>>8. O-O e5 9. Nd5 Nxd5 10. exd5 Ne7 11. Nd2 Bd7 12. Nc4 Qc7 13. a4 Bf5 >>>>>14. Be3 Qd7 15. Rb1 Rfd8 16. f4 exf4 17. Bxf4 Nc8 18. a5 Re8 19. Ne3 Bd4 >>>>>20. Qf3 c4 21. dxc4 Bxc2 22. Rbc1 Bd3 23. Rf2 f5 24. Rd1 Bxe3 25. Bxe3 Bxc4 >>>>>26. Bh6 b6 27. Qc3 Bb5 28. a6 Bxa6 29. g4 fxg4 30. Bf1 Bd3 31. Bxd3 1-0 >>>>> >>>>>[Event "Tony Hedlund"] >>>>>[Site "SSDF"] >>>>>[Date "2002.07.20"] >>>>>[Round "5"] >>>>>[White "Genuis 1 486/66"] >>>>>[Black "Chess Tiger 14.9a Palm"] >>>>>[WhiteElo "2182"] >>>>>[Result "0-1"] >>>>>[ECO "B66"] >>>>>[Opening "Sicilian: Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer Attack, 7...a6"] >>>>> >>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 >>>>>8. O-O-O h6 9. Be3 Bd7 10. f3 Rc8 11. Nb3 b5 12. Qf2 Qc7 13. Kb1 Ne5 >>>>>14. Bb6 Qb8 15. Ba7 Qa8 16. a3 Nc4 17. Bxc4 bxc4 18. Na5 Be7 19. Rd2 d5 >>>>>20. exd5 exd5 21. Re1 Be6 22. Qb6 O-O 23. Rxe6 Bd8 24. Qxa6 fxe6 >>>>>25. Qxe6+ Kh8 26. Qa6 Rf7 27. Nb5 Rc5 28. Rd1 Bxa5 29. Qxa5 Rb7 >>>>>30. Bb6 Qxa5 31. Bxa5 Rcxb5 32. Bc3 Ra7 33. Ka2 Kg8 34. b4 Kf7 35. Kb2 Ra4 >>>>>36. Bd4 Nd7 37. h4 g6 38. g4 Nf6 39. Re1 h5 40. Rf1 Rb8 41. Rg1 Rba8 >>>>>42. Ra1 hxg4 43. Bxf6 Kxf6 44. fxg4 d4 45. Rf1+ Ke5 46. Re1+ Kd5 47. Ra1 d3 >>>>>48. cxd3 cxd3 49. h5 Rxb4+ 50. axb4 Rxa1 51. hxg6 Rg1 52. Kc3 Ke4 0-1 >>>>> >>>>>Tony >>>> >>>>Wow, two really nice games! >>>>Especially in game one the moves 28.a6, 29.g4 and 30.Bf1 are really amazing for >>>>a programm running on a Palm. >>>>Maybe Chess Tiger for Palm was angry, because Christophe didn't expect it to win >>>>a single game. :) >>>>Congrats >>>>Jan >>> >>> >>> >>>I must say I'm very surprised. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I knew what you meant a couple of days ago, but I would definitively be >>surprised if the score reach 12 to 13. But again anything is possible within 50 >>rating point difference. I still estimate CT 14.9 to be 2125 on a palm. > > > >Your evaluation seems reasonable. > > > > Christophe I think you estimated Genius 1 too highly . From Genius 1 to Genius 2 there was a _huge_ advance. And again from Genius 2 to Genius 3 although not that extreme. Then the rest of the Genius engines were of very similar strength. It shows a flaw in the SSDF list IMHO. Look at Genius 4 ratings on SSDF on 486 - Chess Tiger for the Palm is without any chance against it to my experience ( I played some more but decided not to post because there was nothing new) . Then look at the still rather low Genius rating. The problem is that the 486 programs are not active anymore while the others inflate their rating somehow playing in a limitted pool on faster hardware( I won't discuss this, I hope the idea is understandable). Peter
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