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Subject: Re: wow! My stupid program can find it!!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:01:42 07/24/02

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On July 24, 2002 at 16:55:45, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On July 24, 2002 at 14:39:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>Movei also does not use values of 1,3,3,9 but
>>there is also no single value to pieces.
>>
>>There are 64 numbers for every piece based on the square
>>of the piece.
>
>In your sense, I could say, that it is the same for Yace. Yace also uses piece
>square tables.
>
>>I do not know what is the meaning of the values of pawns in yace
>>(you said that pawn is 0.8 and bishop is 3.5)
>
>Yes, these are the default material values (not including any piece square table
>scores).
>
>>but my impression is that the values are misleading and the average
>>value of pawn is more than 0.8.
>>
>>Here is a simple example:
>>
>>Yace believes that 4 pawns are clearly more than a bishop
>>and that the difference is more than 1 pawn.
>>
>>New position
>>4kb2/pppp4/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/4K3 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:
>>
>>1.h3
>>  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>[etc.]
>
>Perhaps it is misleading. The positive score comes from the posional score of
>the pawn structure, which in this case may seem rather high (3 passed pawns, all
>connected). I think, many other engines will give higher positional scores here.

There are only 2 connected passed pawns here and even when there are no passed
pawns yace show advantage for white(see my other post).

Uri




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