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Subject: Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:43:28 08/20/02

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On August 20, 2002 at 18:38:15, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 20, 2002 at 17:52:32, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>
>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:19:26, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>>On August 20, 2002 at 15:43:22, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I have also done enough emotional damage to the author already I'm afraid and I
>>>>>feel real bad about that, it was not my agenda in any way.
>>>
>>>On August 20, 2002 at 16:06:01, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'll second that.
>>>
>>>I'd be interested to know what your intentions were then...
>>>
>>>Russell
>>
>>Probably just not look right at it. When the author of the thesis provides
>>significant statistical data by playing hundreds of games with different engine
>>algorithms i can not imagine how somebody can earnestly say its a pice of junk
>>copied from the internet.
>
>Well I wouldn't be able to pass if I turned that in as my masters project.

Then you are in a different discipline, or I think your advisors are
incompetent.

>So if it isn't good enough to pass, then in my book it's junk, what else should
>I call it?

An excellent piece of literature.  Wonderful reading.  Well thought out and well
orgainized explanations of how chess programs work would do for starters.

>In a different light, as a tutorial for chess, it is a great assembly of
>information, no argument there.
>
>Depends on how you look at it, it just doesn't meet the *standard* _I_ would
>expect of a thesis (of course what my standard is must be rather irrelevant to
>most people here).

I am beginning to wonder if you have actually read it.

>If _your_ standard is lower (or perhaps you simply have no idea what to expect
>of a thesis, perhaps you were even thrilled you could understand it:), then it
>doesn't have to be junk in your eyes, of course.
>
>>Science is about being able to use the theory in a
>>practical model and then maybe come to new conclusions, although i think the
>>conclusion part would be a bit arrogant for a graduating student.
>>Anyway, I would sure look carefully a any new conclusions that are written in a
>>masters thesis before I take it for granted. But I agree with most people here
>>that the above thesis is quite interesting.
>>
>>Maybe some of us had a bit a bad day?
>
>Yes, most certainly ;)

Can I get an 'Amen' from the congregation?



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