Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 16:18:56 08/22/02
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On August 22, 2002 at 19:01:54, Sally Weltrop wrote: >On August 22, 2002 at 18:37:11, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On August 22, 2002 at 18:19:17, Keith Ian Price wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2002 at 10:04:37, Peter Hegger wrote: >>> >>>>On August 22, 2002 at 08:10:27, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>> >>>>>2. Hsu's creations _slaughtered_ the computer competition...ALL OF THEM! >>>> >>>>They did? Where are the game scores? I know that they claimed to have scored >>>>around 90% against other programs during testing, but no game scores exist for >>>>these games. >>>>Are we to simply take their word for it that these games actually happened? >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Peter >>> >>>I talked to Hsu and asked him specifically about this. He said he did not save >>>the game scores. I listened to his answer while looking him in the eye and I >>>believed him. What do you base your assertion that he is lying on? I am inclined >>>to take a person's word without the personal interview, but in this case I had >>>that added benefit. I don't really care if DB would beat today's programs or >>>not, since it does not exist any longer, but I do not like people calling Hsu a >>>liar with no evidence. If you have some, please post it. >>> >>>kp >> >> >>You are right, such _name calling_ is wrong. But let me give you a very basic >>fact. In science it is a fundamental technique to keep exact documentation. >>Simply because without you have no evidence to publish. Now, we know that Feng >>Hsu is a scientist. Hence, it's allowed to ask why he didn't keep the game >>scores. I would say that the question is at least as valuable as your eye into >>eye contact. BTW what did you observe concretely? No need to answer, I wanted to >>lead the attention to the value of such evidence. I'm no way doubting your >>experience. But in science we do not follow such evidence - in general. NB this >>is independent of the status of the persons involved. >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >Good Point Rolf! I know! But please do not congratulate _me_, because I was just the reporter. I did not invent such basics of science. The same with "my" critic against SSDF technology, which is _not_ my private opinion but only some basics of statistics. Personally I'm not at all involved in such topics here. Although the defence of science and stating trivial truths can be quite an engagement at times. Rolf Tueschen
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