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Subject: Re: Correspondence Chess and computers

Author: blass uri

Date: 21:27:15 08/15/98

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On August 15, 1998 at 11:12:37, Kevin Mulloy wrote:

>Dear Friends at CCC,
>     I was wondering if I might pose a question:  Does anyone believe that it
>would be possible for one of the current crop of top computer programs to post a
>Master rating in correspondence chess?  I can lend a little insite, but I would
>like the opinion of the good people that work with computers and the computer
>programs every day.  I am currently a USCF correspondence chess Candidate Master
>(2064).  I have played more than 30 games and -- to date -- I have no losses and
>only 2 draws.

I cannot trust your USCF correspondence chess rating.
If you have 28 wins and 2 draws I think that maybe you should have a master
rating in correspondence chess so the fact that you have only 2 out of 3 against
programs may prove that they are close to master rating.

I can trust your correspondence chess rating only if your result is close to 50%
against at least 6 players with correspondence rating similiar to your's.

Uri



  I have played against players that I believed used computers.
>Since my own style of play with both the white and black pieces tends to be
>closed, I have noticed that computer players tend to attack well, but against
>the closed positions I play they have trouble making any advances in the middle
>game.  I am able to come out with a better game positionally and this has worked
>very well for me.  I have went as far as playing Hiarcs6, Fritz5 and MCP7 in
>simulated "postal games" and I am 1win, 0 losses and 2 draws.  I can not beat
>these programs in a standard 40 moves in 120 min game.  Most of the time I can
>not even draw against these programs at these time controls.  Does anyone have
>an opinion on this?  Is there anyone that has played several games against the
>top programs at "correspondence time controls" that may have simular results?
>     With my limited experience, I don't think that -- against closed positions
>-- the current software could achieve a master rating at postal.  If anyone
>would like to simulate a game against their program, the only three rules that
>you need to know are:  1.  Any opening library or research is legal. 2.  You are
>allowed 3 days per move.  3.  You can not use any computer programs to generate
>a move for you.  In an actual postal game you are not allowed to ask for advise
>from anyone else about a move.
>     I would be very interested to hear from anyone that plays such a match or
>has noticed some of the same things that I have while playing closed positions.
>                            Thank You,
>                                        Trapper



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