Author: blass uri
Date: 08:58:09 08/16/98
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On August 16, 1998 at 07:29:03, blass uri wrote: > >On August 16, 1998 at 07:02:54, Kai Lübke wrote: > >>On August 15, 1998 at 18:48:12, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >> >>>Computers are really not a threat of any kind at correspondence chess. We had >> >>[snip] >> >>>lower levels, computer impact could be felt. But you aren't going to find a >>>2400 correspondence computer for a long while... >> >>I totally agree. I have a 2080 correspondence chess rating and once lost a game >>in 13 moves. In the post mortem I found that almost all of my programs would >>have lost just as fast (Junior, Fritz, MChess etc., given the 10-30 min/move >>that I typically use in my games). > >In a correspondence game you can give programs more time then 10-30 min/move > >The question if they would have lost in 5 hours per move > >Uri I think that the losing mistake is 7.exf7+ 7.Be3 is the move in the opening book of fritz5 Junior5 after some hours play 7.exf7+ with evaluation 0.89 it see the line 7.exf7+ Kxf7 8.Be3 Bb4+ 9.Kf2 Re8 10.Ne2 but does not see Rxe3 It is a good test position for computer programs I am sure Junior will find not to play exf7+ The question is how much time does it need (20 hours,200 hours or maybe 2000 hours) I am not going to try more than 50 hours on my pentium200MMX Uri > > >> >>Here's the game (I'm White, my opponent has a 2200 rating): >> >>1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Bg4 4. f3 Bf5 >>5. c4 e6 6. dxe6 Nc6 (all theory so far) >>7. exf7+ (seconded by Junior, Nimzo, Chessmaster, Rebel, MChess) >>7...Kxf7 >>8. Be3 (seconded by all programs) >>8...Bb4+ >>9. Kf2 (seconded by all except Hiarcs & Nimzo) >>9... Re8 >>10. Ne2 (seconded by all except Rebel) >>10... Rxe3!! >>11. Kxe3 (seconded by all, trivial) >>11...Qe7+ >>12. Kf2 (seconded by all, trivial) >>12...Re8 >>13. Nbc3 (fairly trivial) >> >>Now all programs see black up by +2,5 or more and the game is clearly lost (in >>the actual game, I carried on until move 23, but it was hopeless...). >> >>At least Junior, CM and MChess would have played the game exactly as I did and >>thus would have lost. >> >>--- >>Shep
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